• CherryBullets@lemmy.ca
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    1 hour ago

    It’s funny and the Americans being salty about this one, when their country is becoming more and more fascist every day, are even funnier. Get mad about real important things, not this 😂

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      18 minutes ago

      Those Americans need to look in a mirror first, with their “freedom fries”, because France decided not to back them in their needless war in Iraq.

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    4 hours ago

    while I support Canada boycotting the US, you have to admit this in particular is “freedom fries” tier patriotism. it was embarrassing then, and it is embarrassing now.

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      37 minutes ago

      Yeah, no. If you didn’t support their pointless wars back then, they would call you a traitor. Fuck me for not wanting my friends to die.

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          The “freedom fries” 20 years ago occurred because France did not want to support our stupid middle eastern wars. That spawned the stupid movement to stop calling them French fries. If you were not pro-war in the US in the early 2000’s, a lot of people would suggest you were unpatriotic.

          That is why they said. Because you brought it up.

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      We changed the nane of a product because you haven’t joined us wilding an unjustified war on brown people

      vs.

      We changed the name of a product because you waged an unjustified trade war against us for no reason, even tough we have been your closest alley.

      Not the same.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    It should be left Americano. It’s called that because Americans couldn’t handle the stronger coffee or espresso and wanted it watered down. Weak. “Americano” is kinda insulting by itself. But whatever works for you.

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      20 minutes ago

      That’s one theory as of why. The other is a lack of coffee supplies during wartime.

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      3 hours ago

      This one is ironic because the macho-mindset of needing to be STRONG and therefor only consuming hard stuff is realy American interpretation of manhood in itself.

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      14 hours ago

      I used to look down on the Americano, but as I got older I realized sometimes I’m more in the mood for one than espresso or a milky drink.

      It’s the same amount of coffee, just in lower concentration. You can also sip on it longer before you run out.

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    Writing as a fan of the americano, I think we should just call it what it is. After all, what’s more american than taking something good and watering it down?

    Alternatively we could call it the italiano since that’s where it originated. Or “café à l’eau” perhaps, what’s more Canadian than randomly adding french. Calling it “canadiano” feels too “freedom fries” to me.

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      19 hours ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffè_americano#Origin

      That said, why not Canadiano. Sometimes you want more and a litttle hydration in there. It’s hard to sip an espresso for more than a couple of minutes.

      Agree it feels kind of “freedom fries”-ey but remember that freedom fries were a US republiQan idiocy in a pathetic attempt to mock the French for being too smart to get balls-deep in the Iraq II war. No one but complete koolaid-drinking Qanuts say ‘freedom fries’ now because (a) the French were correct anyway and (b) fries are Belgian.

      In that sense, this is probably better and has a chance of sticking.

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        It’s not the same situation as freedom fries at all, but it has the same sort of cringe feel to me. Just like french fries, the americano isn’t really american. We’re not ‘sticking it’ to anyone here, so it rubs me the wrong way a little. I hardly have a strong opinion on it though.

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        19 hours ago

        yeah, it’s one of my favourite coffees. I like perc-brewed black coffee already, americano has all the, uh, “perks” of it but also the richer flavour of an espresso. So good.

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            12 hours ago

            Dunno if I’d say I prefer perc coffee but I have a really good quality moccamaster that makes very fine perc, it’s great. I never got behind the French press superiority arguments, I find it tends to bring out the acidity in the roasts i prefer. I do love a good watered down espresso though, probably more than perc cup-for-cup, but i couldn’t drink four of them over the day

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              Does moccamaster make percolators too? I’ve only seen their filter coffee makers.

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                Oh, that might be regional terminology. Drip coffee makers are called percolators where i live, but I see from google that the terms aren’t always synonyms

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          I think it’s because most people don’t put as much coffee in the filter as they should and they end up making a weak coffee.

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          18 hours ago

          I thought the same thing … I thought Americano was basically just an espresso with a lot of water added to it

          One of the reasons why I enjoyed espressos and why a lot of Europeans preferred it was due to the fact that it makes you pee less … same hit of caffeine but no need to go pee every half an hour.

          I will sometimes have a pot of coffee a day at home and every time I do, I end up heading to the toilet to pee just about every hour. I really should just switch to espressos but my wife prefers the drip stuff.

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            18 hours ago

            I thought Americano was basically just an espresso with a lot of water added to it

            I think they mean it’s like a regular “instant” coffee but stronger, rather than like an espresso but “weaker”.

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            18 hours ago

            If the espresso isn’t making you pee, you might just be dehydrated. Caffeine is a diuretic, so it’s going to make you lose some water.

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              Caffeine isn’t a true diuretic the way alcohol is. It doesn’t dehydrate your body. But it still makes you pee because it irritates your bladder, causing you to pee out whatever was in there.

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              The espresso will still make you pee … just less often because there is less liquid to pee out … if you drink two or three cups of liquid, you’re more likely and more often will be going to the toilet.

              If you drink an espresso, you got the hit of caffeine but there is less liquid in the system to want to flush out.

              I spent several holidays in the south of Spain and they have about ten different types and amounts and concentrations of espresso. A Spanish breakfast is basically just an espresso and maybe a pastry because they want to be able to work all morning without a toilet break interrupting them. I learned early on from Spanish people that you can just drink an espresso and then go walking around a city for an hour or two without a break for anything for the toilet or even to eat because you’re so hopped up on caffeine (it acts as a hunger suppressant as well).

              The opposite of that is Americano. I work in a bit of construction and renovation and before going to Europe, I’d fill myself with drip coffee and go to work … work for about an hour then have to take pee breaks. Nothing worse than being on top of a roof with all your gear, in middle of a ton of work and you have to head down to pee … only to do it again and again (it’s the main reason why you will often see construction workers peeing in a corner on the lawn or just out a window or into a gravel pit or use piss jugs around the job site).

              Now I drink an espresso or two if I plan on working at a site for a few hours.

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                The espresso will still make you pee … just less often because there is less liquid to pee out … if you drink two or three cups of liquid, you’re more likely and more often will be going to the toilet.

                You just explained dehydration bro

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        It’s not to say they can’t be delicious and can certainly be nicer than a lot of preparations if it is rooted in a nice espresso shot.

        However, the origin story is that American GIs couldn’t handle espresso and made Italians water it down to make it more like “coffee back home”, hence the name.

        I’d imagine an authentic Canadiano would at least have some cheese curds in it.

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    17 hours ago

    Turkish coffee has been called greek coffee(in Greece and Cyprus) ever since the turkish invasion of Cyprus (50 years ago). New generations of greeks probably arent even aware of that(or it is a neat trivia that some might have heard).