• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    It should be left Americano. It’s called that because Americans couldn’t handle the stronger coffee or espresso and wanted it watered down. Weak. “Americano” is kinda insulting by itself. But whatever works for you.

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      8 hours ago

      I used to look down on the Americano, but as I got older I realized sometimes I’m more in the mood for one than espresso or a milky drink.

      It’s the same amount of coffee, just in lower concentration. You can also sip on it longer before you run out.

  • socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works
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    Writing as a fan of the americano, I think we should just call it what it is. After all, what’s more american than taking something good and watering it down?

    Alternatively we could call it the italiano since that’s where it originated. Or “café à l’eau” perhaps, what’s more Canadian than randomly adding french. Calling it “canadiano” feels too “freedom fries” to me.

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffè_americano#Origin

      That said, why not Canadiano. Sometimes you want more and a litttle hydration in there. It’s hard to sip an espresso for more than a couple of minutes.

      Agree it feels kind of “freedom fries”-ey but remember that freedom fries were a US republiQan idiocy in a pathetic attempt to mock the French for being too smart to get balls-deep in the Iraq II war. No one but complete koolaid-drinking Qanuts say ‘freedom fries’ now because (a) the French were correct anyway and (b) fries are Belgian.

      In that sense, this is probably better and has a chance of sticking.

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        13 hours ago

        It’s not the same situation as freedom fries at all, but it has the same sort of cringe feel to me. Just like french fries, the americano isn’t really american. We’re not ‘sticking it’ to anyone here, so it rubs me the wrong way a little. I hardly have a strong opinion on it though.

      • socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works
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        13 hours ago

        yeah, it’s one of my favourite coffees. I like perc-brewed black coffee already, americano has all the, uh, “perks” of it but also the richer flavour of an espresso. So good.

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            6 hours ago

            Dunno if I’d say I prefer perc coffee but I have a really good quality moccamaster that makes very fine perc, it’s great. I never got behind the French press superiority arguments, I find it tends to bring out the acidity in the roasts i prefer. I do love a good watered down espresso though, probably more than perc cup-for-cup, but i couldn’t drink four of them over the day

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          I thought the same thing … I thought Americano was basically just an espresso with a lot of water added to it

          One of the reasons why I enjoyed espressos and why a lot of Europeans preferred it was due to the fact that it makes you pee less … same hit of caffeine but no need to go pee every half an hour.

          I will sometimes have a pot of coffee a day at home and every time I do, I end up heading to the toilet to pee just about every hour. I really should just switch to espressos but my wife prefers the drip stuff.

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            12 hours ago

            I thought Americano was basically just an espresso with a lot of water added to it

            I think they mean it’s like a regular “instant” coffee but stronger, rather than like an espresso but “weaker”.

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            12 hours ago

            If the espresso isn’t making you pee, you might just be dehydrated. Caffeine is a diuretic, so it’s going to make you lose some water.

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              Caffeine isn’t a true diuretic the way alcohol is. It doesn’t dehydrate your body. But it still makes you pee because it irritates your bladder, causing you to pee out whatever was in there.

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              The espresso will still make you pee … just less often because there is less liquid to pee out … if you drink two or three cups of liquid, you’re more likely and more often will be going to the toilet.

              If you drink an espresso, you got the hit of caffeine but there is less liquid in the system to want to flush out.

              I spent several holidays in the south of Spain and they have about ten different types and amounts and concentrations of espresso. A Spanish breakfast is basically just an espresso and maybe a pastry because they want to be able to work all morning without a toilet break interrupting them. I learned early on from Spanish people that you can just drink an espresso and then go walking around a city for an hour or two without a break for anything for the toilet or even to eat because you’re so hopped up on caffeine (it acts as a hunger suppressant as well).

              The opposite of that is Americano. I work in a bit of construction and renovation and before going to Europe, I’d fill myself with drip coffee and go to work … work for about an hour then have to take pee breaks. Nothing worse than being on top of a roof with all your gear, in middle of a ton of work and you have to head down to pee … only to do it again and again (it’s the main reason why you will often see construction workers peeing in a corner on the lawn or just out a window or into a gravel pit or use piss jugs around the job site).

              Now I drink an espresso or two if I plan on working at a site for a few hours.

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                The espresso will still make you pee … just less often because there is less liquid to pee out … if you drink two or three cups of liquid, you’re more likely and more often will be going to the toilet.

                You just explained dehydration bro

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        11 hours ago

        It’s not to say they can’t be delicious and can certainly be nicer than a lot of preparations if it is rooted in a nice espresso shot.

        However, the origin story is that American GIs couldn’t handle espresso and made Italians water it down to make it more like “coffee back home”, hence the name.

        I’d imagine an authentic Canadiano would at least have some cheese curds in it.

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    11 hours ago

    Turkish coffee has been called greek coffee(in Greece and Cyprus) ever since the turkish invasion of Cyprus (50 years ago). New generations of greeks probably arent even aware of that(or it is a neat trivia that some might have heard).

  • IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    12 hours ago

    Weirdest experience I ever had back in my barista days was an older gentleman approaching my counter and ordering a “GI Coffee”. I had no idea what he meant and he had to explain it to me. It’s an Americano.

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      12 hours ago

      Nowadays GI is more likely to be associated with gastrointestinal. In that context, “GI coffee” takes an interesting meaning.

  • jpreston2005@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    This reminds me of when americans renamed French fries “Freedom Fries.”

    This level of pettiness is something I am truly proud of, and love to see. When Canada floated that idea of welcoming in California, Oregon and Washington state as territories, my first thought was “I would move there so fucking fast, I’d leave a me-sized cloud of dust in this shithole regressive country and never once look back”

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      11 hours ago

      Where does the “French” in French fries come from? What made it French? I’ve never seen it associated with French cuisine. Only American.

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        11 hours ago

        French fries

        Well,

        Thomas Jefferson had “potatoes served in the French manner” at a White House dinner in 1802. The expression “french fried potatoes” first occurred in print in English in the 1856 work Cookery for Maids of All Work by Eliza Warren: “French Fried Potatoes. – Cut new potatoes in thin slices, put them in boiling fat, and a little salt; fry both sides of a light golden brown colour; drain.” This account referred to thin, shallow-fried slices of potato. It is not clear where or when the now familiar deep-fried batons or fingers of potato were first prepared. In the early 20th century, the term “french fried” was being used in the sense of “deep-fried” for foods like onion rings or chicken.

        One story about the name “french fries” claims that when the American Expeditionary Forces arrived in Belgium during World War I, they assumed that chips were a French dish because French was spoken in the Belgian Army. But the name existed long before that in English, and the popularity of the term did not increase for decades after 1917. The term was in use in the United States as early as 1886. An 1899 item in Good Housekeeping specifically references Kitchen Economy in France: “The perfection of French fries is due chiefly to the fact that plenty of fat is used.”

        Americans coined a phrase and ran with it, it seems 🤷‍♂️