We’re in this together, and we need to stick together.

Don’t abandon your comrades!

  • bier@feddit.nlEnglish
    181·
    1 day ago

    There is no freedom, without being free to, look, feel, dress, love, etc how you want.

    • wisely@feddit.orgEnglish
      92·
      16 hours ago

      Yep, it affects everyone. Think of men who can’t be a stay at home dad, work as a nurse, embarrassed to pick up a pink pen, or can’t show emotion, etc. Women who want to do construction work or STEM. Trans discrimination is just that taken to an extreme because the perceived divergence is more drastic.

      Whoever you are, and as straight as someone may be, I can almost guarantee you have been personally affected by the same persecution at some point in your life. This is what gender policing actually is and is also the reason why LGB face discrimination, falling outside of gender norms.

      • bier@feddit.nlEnglish
        41·
        18 hours ago

        Exactly, I’m a dad with 2 kids, and the “war” on trans people is also a “war” on me. Because your rights are my rights and my rights are your rights. Freedom isn’t a saladbar where you pick the things you like. Freedom only works if it works for all people. Like justice freedom should be blind to race, gender, sexuality, etc.

  • Allonzee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    37·
    1 day ago

    In case anyone doesn’t know,

    Fascists start with the minorities within minorities, the smallest groups they can, to test the waters, get the smallest pushback, boil the societal frog, and normalize those people going away. It’s an easier and more manageable proposition for the Fascists to send LGBTQ to the gas chambers a letter at a time as the other letters hunch their heads hoping not to be noticed than have to fight a unified LGBTQ, for example.

    It’s what the “First they came for the socialists” poem is about. If you don’t defend the lives of those unlike you, unless you have blonde hair, blue eyes, and tow every single ideological line of “normality,” they’ll get to you eventually(unless you’re very wealthy, they’ll get a pass as always no matter what, don’t worry), and as they force you on the train Tesla CyberSwastiBus, you’ll remember all the people you were fine with suffering the same fate when it wasnt you, no longer there to appeal to in solidarity to save your selfish, solely self-interested ass.

    That’s what I hate about capitalism even before its inevitable end stage of fascism, its faustian appeal to the darkest part of our nature: “rational self-interest,” the rebranding and rehabbing of being a selfish antisocial fuck into somehow being virtuous. It’s the opposite. It is the very bedrock of being a shitty person and the underlying cause of most human suffering, "sure, but what’s in it for meeeeeeee?"

    It boggles my mind how so many don’t/can’t/refuse to see how this foundational requirement of capitalism, the nurturing of selfishness as virtue and not profound character defect worthy of scorn, will always lead society to mass dehumanization of others. How else can you be comfortable eating a feast on a personal mega yacht while children are denied school lunches and human beings die under our freeways? “Well, I’m better than them, they’re beneath meeeeeeee after all so they deserve their suffering and I deserve all their portions.”

  • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    9·
    1 day ago

    Those are awful chameleons.

    Not even to talk about the bright rainbow ones screaming “I WANT TO BE YOUR NEXT SNACK”, but even the normal one is green despite being on a brown branch

  • CuriousRefugee@lemmy.mlEnglish
    243·
    1 day ago

    I’m often skeptical of the idea of intersectionality. Trying to lump people who are black, queer, atheist, immigrants, feminists, etc. in one big group and have them fight for each other’s rights isn’t going to work super well, and any division can just detail the whole effort.

    But the T in LGBT has been there since the very early days of the gay rights movement. Trans people were not just there at Stonewall, they were the crux of the riots, for fuck’s sake! I grew up when people were literally trying to erase gay people from existence - the whole “is it a choice vs. are you born gay?” debate, which was both insulting and not important (oh, if it’s a choice, then it’s fine for you to oppress someone?) was erasure. Gay-erasure was a thing, everyone. Bi-erasure has been a thing for ages! Now I see the same thing happening to trans folks, and it’s like a bunch of people are either forgetting it or willfully ignoring history.

    It’s not even just about what this comic is saying, i.e., if you let them come for people who are trans, then soon they’ll come for you. Even if I knew 100% gay marriage was not under threat AT ALL, I’d still support the trans community, because it’s not a tit-for-tat when someone’s existence is at stake! Sure, we need to convince the public, sure it’s hard and sure, there are some small (VERY small in terms of numbers) issues like trans athletes and regretful transitioners that maybe need some working through or compromises, just as gay marriage had to start with civil unions before the public accepted “marriage.” But it’s worth fighting for!

    Okay, rant over, especially with me knowing Lemmy is fine with trans folks, y’all are good peeps, I just felt angry about this today.

    • wisely@feddit.orgEnglish
      71·
      1 day ago

      An important difference with this though is that standards of care for transitioning has existed for decades to prevent people from being misdiagnosed as transgender. As well as trans women playing sports. It’s only in recent times that a hyper focus has been placed on a minority of a minority trans population for political gain. It’s effective political messaging for people who only recently became aware of trans people living their lives, unaware that this isn’t new. Going from civil unions to gay marriage is progress, going from marriage to civil unions is backtracking on established norms.

      Someone who is below average on her team, transitioned as a teenager, had surgery, is 5 ft 2 and has low testosterone only 1/4 of most women is not at any kind of unfair advantage, and this can be in a non contact sport. The blanket ban is a ban across an entire category of women accusing them of advantages that many do not have. It makes more sense to do as it has been done for decades and follow guidelines that assess the individual player for unfair advantages than to ban everyone across an entire demographic.

      If someone who isn’t trans gets trans healthcare, they are effectively now trans, with gender dysphoria. They will be given access to gender affirming care to make them a better fit back to their original sex, because it is an effective treatment. However, most people who receive trans healthcare are in fact trans. It’s not a fast or easy process either, this is something that takes years navigating the healthcare system, letting HRT take affect, changing documents, getting referral letters, electrolysis, going to court for legal changes, surgery, etc.

      I know several who still can’t afford surgery decades later who desperately need it. I know someone who died fighting for insurance coverage. There is a way bigger concern of people not having access to healthcare than people who don’t need it transitioning despite all of that. Continuing to periodically reevaluate the standards of care to minimize people being misdiagnosed makes the most sense, not banning healthcare for those whose doctors say it is medically necessary.

    • ödd (they/them)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2·
      1 day ago

      and any division can just detail the whole effort.

      that is their goal, that’s the reason we need intersectionality, divided we get the boot

    • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      5·
      1 day ago

      I usually do, but being the community it is (196) I figured making the title short and silly would aid in it getting traction.

  • Smorty [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    217·
    2 days ago

    it would hav made mor sens if evil anti trns peep would hav older lgbt flag where there is no trns an intersx. jus a thought tho… ~

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    1 day ago

    The new fox show “to catch a real transgender” coming right up! And the government is introducing LG Tuesdays! That’s when the police doesn’t as you if you’re Lesbian or gay during routine stops based on the colors of your vehicle.