He even made friends with all of us.
at the time we were like “this is some performative nonsense” but now with all of these awful tech billionaires and Tom’s conducted himself, i do actually think he meant it when he said he did that because he thought everyone deserved to have a friend
Fucking legend!
I’m legit jelly.
Yeah let’s spread misinformation and romanticize the past so we can blame our problems on bad actors and bad times rather than recognize and address the systemic causes that have pervaded social media since its inception.
sorry for being so salty and sarcastic, in a weird mood rn
Are the people running modern social media not part of the system?
Valid question but IMO, no. replacing Zuckerberg Musk etc would do nothing to solve the fact that capitalism runs social media as a for-profit enterprise
Systems are made of people. So yeah, remove the bad actors and you already have a better system.
Fair point. My rebuttal: The system here is manifold, a lack of general awareness and understanding, the legislative framework in most places, and most importantly, capitalism. The owners of social media are the most replaceable part of that, if Meta and Zuck imploded today, some other for-profit crap would fill the void
Systems are also made of rules, and bad rules can turn good people into bad people. That’s kind of the point of critical race theory
Good people don’t turn into bad people. By default that rules them out of being good people.
Everyone has a price, and everyone can be led down the wrong path. I mean, the supposed “good guys” in all of this were laughing and cheering at a man being murdered in front of his wife and kids just last week. I wonder how many of them, even just 5 years ago, would have done that? But they see the assholes on the “bad side do it” and all of sudden its ok.
Social media has fucked all of our brains. whether its tiktok, facebook reddit, instagram, lemmy, whatever. Its made us weird about information, and the opinions that we have. The downvotes give us little dopamine hits. So we start to want the uparrows. Then we get weird about the uparrows, moaning that people are misunderstanding what we are saying. Then we cant risk the uparrows, so we just say whatever everyone else is saying. Whatever gets us our fix.
And anyone reading this disagrees, I would ask you how often you look at your profile to make sure your comments are all getting upvotes… Social media has been programming us for years. And this is now what it looks like. Radicalisation of the left and right, to the point we raging over people using bathrooms, finding joy in other peoples misery, and worst of all we are ignoring the real world for it. We all need a big reset to rehinge our damaged brain function.
Fuck yeah I’m happy Kirk is dead. He was a mass murderer, he just did it with a camera instead of a knife. I take glee in knowing his reign of terror is at an end, and I think it’s funny that he was stopped halfway through making an asinine point about transgender gun violence.
We need to label MAGA a terrorist organization, then go after them as if they are ISIS, then go global: AfD, the oil industry, etc.
All should be labeled terrorists.
Pretty sure you already are, mate.
Yeah, thats just ghoulish behaviour. And youve made up some nonsense to justify it. And funny thing is, you look exactly like those MAGA fuck wits. You just have a differing point of view. The moment you forget theres a human being on the other end, is the same moment you become the very thing you hate.
But you do, brobeans. Whatever gets you those worthless internet points, am I right?
Did my great grandpa shoot Nazis at D-day because it was popular? Was he just chasing trends?
BTW the fact that Hitler shot himself is hilarious
Well then if you ever ate meat, you’re not a good person. But I think people can be corrupted and they can be redeemed, and people who eat meat because society encourages it can be rehabilitated.
How is it meats problem here?
Eating meat is mean, it’s just an example of a bad thing a lot of people do. The point is we’ve all done bad things, but we can all be redeemed if we stop doing bad things. Like eating meat.
So all those people who are medically unable to follow a vegan diet are evil because…
Because they are a cursed creature of the night, doomed to forever dine on the blood of virgins.
Oh wait, that’s vampires. And people who need meat to live are different from vampires because… Okay help me out here, what’s the difference?
People have to make the rules, and choose if they enforce them, and choose if they obey them. Ultimately, it comes back to people.
Yeah, but psychological factors decide whether people obey and conform, as demonstrated by Milgram and Asch. Changing the situation changes whether they’ll go along with a bad system.
Ummm… when he sold MySpace he literally sold our data to NewsCorp?
I remember when NewsCorp bought MySpace and I was already on Facebook at the time. I knew that NewsCorp had been taken for suckers because it was plain as day that young people would all move to Facebook.
Of course, I no longer use Facebook, but it’s a lesson for business people. If you’re making an investment in something young people use, maybe ask young people something about it first.
As you get older, you really just lose touch with that kind of thing, so it’s understandable how a bunch of suits missed that and flushed half a billion dollars down the toilet.
Whaaaat TIL
In 2005, two years after launching the site, Anderson and DeWolfe sold Myspace to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. for $580 million. Afterward, Anderson continued working as the company’s president. He retired from active involvement with Myspace in 2009 or 2010 as its popularity waned and Facebook usurped it as the most popular social networking site.
He then went to burning man and traveled and got into travel photography. Lives between Hawaii, LA, and vegas
Memes never lie!
it cost 'em $580 million… they got back, six years later, a whole $35 million when they unloaded it.
Also MySpace was one of the first platforms to use a built-in targeted advertising model, and partnered with Google for both adserve, indexing, and search. To say they didnt sell data is the same as saying Facebook doesn’t sell data, they were the data user, selling ad space based on profiling users.
Revisionist bullshit. Despite what came later, Facebook was the privacy-respecting alternative to MySpace at the time.
Bullshit. Facebook asked for my real name and school email to sign up.
I don’t know that Facebook ever sold itself that way. It was privacy respecting perhaps only because it only allowed college students to sign up for it, so only your classmates could see what you were doing. However, shortly after launching Zuck out out the news feed, which told everyone whenever you looked at their profile which people hated! The news feed in general felt like a huge privacy violation and Zuck issued his first apology. Still, they kept the news feed.
Soon they also allowed photo sharing and this is how everyone got into trouble though, as people posted photos of themselves partying and then their friends tagged them in those photos and then a couple years later, Facebook let everyone’s parents in and by that point people were trying to get jobs. It quickly became clear that maybe sharing everything on Facebook wasn’t a good idea.
My memory of MySpace was creating over 2 dozen accounts and maxing out the Playlists.just a bunch of my favorite albums uploaded, as my friends ‘private’ music server.
How was the “dumb fucks” platform ever privacy-respecting? The shit came out later, but it was always a privacy nightmare since the farmville days and even as “The Facebook”
edit: I just read another comment about the Google adserve partnership, didn’t know that, guess I see your angle now. But still, it was only surface appearance of privacy, behind the scenes the Zucc has always been the same and doing their own tracking instead of partnering with someone else
I don’t know why are you so angry with poor Zucc. He just wanted to oogle his classmate’s bathsuit pics, isn’t that relatable?
My how things changed!
For example, in 2006, when Facebook decided to open its doors to the public – not just college kids with .edu addresses – they understood that most people interested in social media already had accounts on Myspace, a service that had been sold to master enshittifier Rupert Murdoch the year before. Myspace users were champing at the bit to leave, but they were holding each other hostage.
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Those live, ongoing connections to people – not your old posts or your identifiers – impose the highest switching costs for any social media service. Myspace users who were reluctant to leave for the superior lands of Facebook (where, Mark Zuckerberg assured them, they would never face any surveillance – no, really!) were stuck on Rupert Murdoch’s sinking ship by their love of one another, not by their old Myspace posts. Giving users who left Myspace the power to continue talking to the users who stayed was what broke the floodgates, leading to the “unraveling” that boyd observed.
Wow, I had no idea about the Facebook/MySpace message bridge bot. Definitely shows the power and importance of the various bridge/mirror projects like Bridgy. It says that the same kind of bot would now be Fedrally illegal in the US, but I haven’t seen any specifics about that, and seems like the EU just made it mandatory to enable through APIs.
I have thought a bit about this and how to breakout of silos, and it seems like now with LLM tools accessing the browser it will be nearly impossible to prevent messaging and posts from being cross-platformed, though the compute cost would be higher than by using the old API method.
You don’t need llm to import posts from another website, just an API or scraper to fetch them. Much cheaper, faster and more reliable.
But what about messages? When you say “scraper” what would that look like in the context of receiving and sending direct messages from one platform to another when one of the platforms closes their API?
Doesn’t matter. As long as sent and received messages are shown in the accounts inbox you can parse them back out.
But how do you then reply to those posts back into the platform of origination from the outside platform?
