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    8 months ago

    rtfm and other toxicity in the gnu/linux community are a microsoft psyop change my mind

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    8 months ago

    The best Microsoft psyops to maintain market share and they don’t get to pay anything lmao

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    Tbh I don’t think Linux users should recommend Linux to Windows users. Linux fundamentally cannot replace Windows, it will never fully replicate its software support or quality. If someone tells me that they need Adobe products or other professional photo/video editors I would genuinely tell them to reinstall Windows.

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          It shouldn’t be pushed on people, but it should be talked about to give people more choice and agency in their home computing.

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              Ease of use has been getting worse. And with the way enshittification has been hitting, the need for compatible software is likely to shift into a need for software that does what it says on the tin without 2 linked accounts and AI integration.

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        I know this thread is 10 years old, but still the steps “My laptop is a bit too warm” – “Scanning for temperature sensors broke my monitor” – “sudo i2cget -y 6 0x4f 176 [WTF?!] fixed it.” are really not unlikely to happen again today. I shot xOrg trying to get control over my fans just this year.

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            8 months ago

            I think it’s very common, particularly for gamers, to want to take control of their cooling.

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              Yes, but that’s why I keep saying average user. Your average user mostly just browses the internet, casually plays games, and uses common software like word, with increasingly many apps/services being available online. Gamers who mess with drivers, the hardware, and bios settings and such are not really the norm. How many people in your life are afraid to touch the windows settings, if they even know where to find them?

              Honestly most of the popularity of windows at home these days I’m willing to bet is because it’s what’s installed by default, and of course because of familiarity.

              You’re right of course that professionally you can’t always replace windows, and while proton let’s you play almost anything there are certain games that aren’t available (usually because of anti-cheat). Most pc users however won’t notice as they aren’t gamers. I do also find that the settings and gui package managers on most distros are way more user-friendly than what you have on windows, which I think is another point in favour of using linux casually.

              EDIT: Also most users don’t have high-end machines, and linux pc’s are nicer on the hardware and are less performance intensive which means their computers will be relevant for longer.

            • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Bazzite kinda solves most of these issues though honestly. It’s immutable, so it protects you from doing things that might severely impact other systems. It also already has hardware support for things like fan control for a bunch of systems (Nvidia, Steam Deck, ASUS RoG handhelds).

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      Yeah, I agree but also stop using Adobe garbage. Too few people are even trying to break free from having their stuff used to train AI, from 24/7 surveillance by Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, etc.

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      8 months ago

      need Adobe products

      Just use GIMP, lol

      [My eyes roll so far back in my head that they fall out of my skull]

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        Darktable and krita.

        Most of the time you don’t even need to leave darktable. Great support for raws.

        Anything video, kdenlive is ok for quick stuff but davinvi resolve is a cut above.

        Honestly Adobe products are not great anymore. Their usability has gone down the toilet imo. xd was the last bit of interest for me, and that went to garbage a long while ago when it went paid only.

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      As Adobe gets increasingly shitty, more and more people realize they can go without Illustrator or Photoshop, often even After Effects. Lots of users got used to them with licences they didn’t pay for (at school or work) and often only use them for basic functionality, not wanting to invest the time to learn Inkscape, Krita, Blender etc. that would be adequate for their use case. However, the AI training fiasco might be the push they need.

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    The worst part is they are so up their own ass nothing you say does anything. Maybe because I’m young but I don’t know why I try to explain the reason I’d help someone with their issue.

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    I don’t think it’s okay to be toxic to newbies but there certainly are cases where the solution to problems was a google search and 10 minutes of reading away.

    There are a lot of community heroes out there, that spend their days supporting users in forums, without having any monetary benefit from it, that in my opinion may have a reason to be upset if someone does not want to spend any effort on their own in trying to solve their problem.

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      IDK man. I tried Linux a few times, and it never stuck. Things don’t work, it involves endless reading, or the latter then the prior on loop (where as windows just works).

      I’m trying out endeavour ATM and hopefully it will stick. But it took me a solid few attempts, over days, to find out “where does pacman get its apps from”. I know the answer is more conplex, but eventually I foind and the arch web db…with the help of perlexoty.AI.

      I didn’t realise it was different than the AUR web db look basically identical. I never noticed the URL difference. As far as Linux has come its still little frustrations that hold it back for even semi tech literste pople.

      I’m trying to save from posting in forums (and have rooted a few androids with less than a handfull of posts) but I can’t even work out from the wiki how I can give pacman a list apps to install when it’s spaced out on each line, without making it a .txt file. It’s pretty impossible to “just read” and work out simple things.

      Maybe it’s just like my opinion. (I am liking endevour so far).

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        Getting Arch-based distro as a daily-driver feels like a very strange choice to me, however I should admit that I still use Arch-wiki as a first source of help in case I encounter any problems. But if you like Endeavour, good for you! I should probably check it out too some time :)

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    Just direct everybody to Linux Mint Debian Edition for their first distro. It just feels so familiar to a Windows user and should check all boxes for people who just need a basic PC.

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    Is no one going to ask wtf that picture is? Looks like something you would see under an electronic microscope.