Same with Barr and Schneider.

The only seasoning JD is doing is on the couch.

Oof, that sucks.

Yeah big brands can screw up too, I had several spools of coax fail once, and it turned out the whole batch had a problem. I’m just glad no one pulled first, tested later.

If we are taking a gentle loop, sure. But if you mean (and I’ve seen this BTW) tying like a pair of shoes and pulling it tight, I’d kick you out of my IDF.

Not saying thats what you were thinking, just had to share my memory of that pain.

I still prefer a bit of waxed thread though. Great for any cable, be it utp, f/utp, armored, fiber, coax, whatever. But that’s also how I started, so it probably plays a role in why I like it.

Edit: plus a string makes a nice and neat way to hang it on a hook.

I think that has to do more with the heads being used and the quality of the cable than anything. I’ve seen tons of cheap heads on good cable, and it goes poorly after a while.

I generally recommend cable thats been third party tested for both performance and physical resilience. Haven’t seen any decent riser that wasn’t, but I have seen some patch from major brands that definitely wasn’t.

Please dont bend and pinch your cables. Make a loop as shown in the bottom middle.

Add a piece of string to tie it.

And no zip ties. Zip ties are for attaching cables to other things, and should never be tightened fully.

One of my in-laws has a maybe 80-100sq ft room off the basement with guns in a safe and porn on the wall.

We are both in our 40s. They still exist.

Yeah… “A glitch”.

Most likely a test run to see how significant the response would be, and an indicator of where things are going.

I have kids, and while yeah I don’t want them repeating some words until they understand them as well as the appropriate social context…

Not what I’m worried about when it comes to TV/streaming.

No worries! Like I said, missing context from the deletion. For the record, they were conflating sex and gender and thinking they were the same thing.

Which, obviously - no, definitely not the same thing, and both are important.

Edited to add: and I completely understand how the lost context can make things more confusing, so seriously, no worries. I just wanted to be clear that was not what I was saying at all.

We’re going well past “these two words mean the same thing!” that I was replying to, probably because they deleted their comment. So there is missing context.

So trans women’s brains mirror those of cis women more closely than cis men, and vice versa for trans men.

Because sex is not a binary either. I’m not a geneticist, doctor, etc, but this is fairly well established AFAIK, showing that ‘male’ and ‘female’ are more akin to general groupings, with a degree of overlap, than any actual dichotomy.

As a sample reference:

https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/genomics/Scientists-reject-binary-view-human/102/i33

To quote that example:

Gender and sex are closely related yet distinct concepts—sex is considered a collection of biological characteristics, and gender is considered a collection of socially constructed roles, behaviors, expressions, and identities.

Regarding the next bit from you:

Also, treating sex as the only one that is relevant in medicine is reductive and inaccurate.

It would be, but that isnt what I said, right from the quote you have of me:

Sex and gender are still entirely distinct

I never, at any point, said that only sex mattered in medicine. I said they were distinct.

I doubt it was your intention to do so, but youre putting words in my mouth. Please don’t misrepresent me.

Once youre talking science, sex and gender are two very different definitions. Colloquial use of words doesnt really factor in.

If you mean sex and gender, gender was used only used for classifying nouns up until around 50 years ago. At that point is when it was used by feminists to create a distinction between sex and gender (and as a means of identifying gendered social constructs), using it as a synonym for sex is more recent.

Sex and gender are still entirely distinct when it comes to medical science, psychology, neuroscience, etc.

(I may be missing another historical usage here, but it would be a modern use of ‘gender’ definitely. I think the timeline is about right though.)

Adult musical comedy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazbin_Hotel

Thats his name in Hazbin Hotel, yes.

Ok, 2/2 (I hope). Starting with a part I missed:

It is “our” community in the sense that we are, and always have been, responsible for it. We’re not suggesting you owe us your contributions.

Hard disagree on both. Especially when the community gets locked.

To speak frankly again, I’ve exhausted myself with how much time I’ve put into responding to all of the concerns. But if you feel like you have more that wasn’t addressed then just say it. I’ll be here, and I’ll always be willing to continue sacrificing my free time for the sake of you guys understanding what happened, why, and what we are doing differently so there are no problems in the future.

I think my reply is detailed enough to explain why I say the concerns have not been addressed in any of those three parts.

Asking if people agreed with the choice should have been the first step, because clearly a majority of the community agreed with Ada as well.

This was already addressed here, and I encourage you to read Ada’s reply and my reply to her. Long story short, I did tell people about this months ago in an effort to be more transparent with the community, and I was in favor of a vote, but due to some misunderstandings with Ada I had to remove what I said.

So… people didn’t get asked because it was removed? So people didn’t get asked. It just became a unilateral decision based on the mod team’s own vibes.

What I didn’t say in that comment, though, was that the mods didn’t even have time to realize or interject when the change was being made without notice.

“The mods” are the ones who made the change. So… I don’t follow.

So even the idea of discussing a move was so far removed from when conversation should have happened, if only to get some alignment/input from the community, Addressed in the previous two paragraphs, and in many of my comments elsewhere.

That it didn’t happen, yes, confirmed. There was no input from the community.

that this should also be a pretty bright lantern light guiding the mod team to resignation. Addressed here and in this post.

You have said you would. Do you speak for the whole mod team? Where is the response from the rest of the mod team involved in this debacle? Have folks resigned?

So still not addressed.

To start off, I just want to note that I’m not replying in anger here. I want to note that I am providing feedback - by your own request btw - for why I think the questions are unanswered, and why I think resignation of all the mods is appropriate. I’m not angry with you as a person, and I do consider what was done to be a blunder with good intentions. Unfortunately, a pretty big one, and what it says to me is either that the concerns of the community are not understood or not being provided consideration.

For the record, I do think you are considering them, because you are talking to people. I would absolutely not say that of the entire mod team though.

Yes, the community and the mods are clearly still not on the same page on this matter, despite how transparent we’ve been in the OP and how much I’ve been in my replies. “Ah, but you weren’t transparent until after the fact”, that’s addressed later in this comment.

No, I’m saying you’re still not on the same page because you still have a complete misconception of the issues at hand, which continues in the reply.

Then .world shouldn’t have been a consideration.

That’s also addressed later in this comment, but for now I have a question… LW is already federated with LBZ, so how does being hosted there make a difference in terms of transphobes/etc. coming in from LW? The whole point of the fediverse is that those floodgates are already open. We already get loads of LW users on all of the LBZ subs, and we’ve had no issues dealing with them so far on 196. There really isn’t that much to do in order to deal with it, and there are eight of us, so I don’t think the absence of Ada would make that an issue either. Plus, this post demonstrates how much free time I alone have and am willing to put into this community.

(And I’m not asking this question as an implicit statement. I just think that there must be some aspect of federated platforms that I don’t understand considering it’s relevance to this whole ordeal. (And if you’re thinking “ah, but here’s what Ada said about what you don’t understand about federation!” I addressed it here and here.))

Yeah this isn’t really about federation (which can be messy).

So, two issues. The first is discovery - if its on LBZ, its visible to .world on all, yes. It is not discoverable on local though since its on a different instance. So thats one item - being on local is more likely to attract the average .world user.

Two, and more important, different instance means different rules. Yes, that is why the mod team was looking to move, but lets look at that instance in particular for a moment. Keeping this aside, which is a symptom, but lets hit a few more of those symptoms for a moment. For example, admins jumping in on c/vegan and wreaking havoc. This may be a mea culpa announcement, but lets look at some of the things they did (and not the content, that is irrelevant here) as noted in their own post:

• Removing comments in a community they didn’t moderate, for reasons based on their own interpretation of instance terms
• Comments removed without a reason
• Removing moderators from that community
• Posting their own opposing comments and elevating visibility

The result of all this?

• A mea culpa post
• No actions being taking against the admin who did it
• A new section for the moderators to respond to admin actions, but not vice-versa
• A rather… interesting take on censorship.

Lets review that censorship one for a second:

Controversial topics can and should be discussed, as long as they are not causing risk of imminent physical harm.

Boy oh boy, that bolded part - by .world by the way, they bolded and I’m quoting as is - you may notice there is some similar terminology to that recent post.

Ok, lets get the next sentence in there:

We are firm believers in the hippocratic oath of “do no harm”.

Now, lets compare that sentence to the one that comes immediately before. “Do no harm” vs “imminent physical harm”. There is a wide window between “no harm” and “imminent physical harm”. As someone who went through clear trauma as you mentioned (which I am always sorry to hear, and I hope you’ve had the support you needed in the meantime, but I digress) - there is a lot in that window that fits into blatantly transphobic, racist, sexist, fascist support, etc. behavior but not “imminent physical harm”. And when we put that alongside “Controversial topics can and should be discussed” (emphasis mine this time), that is a huge can of worms.

This is why I spoke about assurances - an assurance to you is not an assurance to the community. I’ll get to that in a bit though.

One of the more prominent mods and posters on .world recently posted up some Matt Walsh bs - and just to note, I check the modlogs somewhat often. I have other accounts and mod some niche communities with a small number of subscribers. So, on that note, I’d ask if you’ve seen the .world modlogs all that much. I say that because in my opinion, there is a strong center-right lean in the moderation across the board, and that is fostered by the administration - see two linked announcements. You can see even more of this with moderation actions by admins in the more recent Luigi-inspired post. “Uncivil” and “Bad faith” are two good examples of reasons often used for this sort of moderation.

This is why I can’t comprehend why anyone would ever consider .world for 196. This is why I bring up assurances - what you’re told, and what has been done by admins without any repercussions are not in agreement. So why, without an assurance to the community, would the community believe that its going to be handled as a space that is safe for them?

Unfortunately I have to join an unexpected conference call, so I’ll have to wrap up this up later. Some items I intend to mention tie back to whats here so its not a complete thought, but figured I may as well share in the meantime. I’ll edit the rest in later, unless in the meantime you mention you’d prefer a separate comment.

but we’ve been in contact with the lemmy.world admins for a while now

Ah yes, and you shared that communication right? Not that there has been communication, but actually what was said?

I feel like this question was worded weirdly but I will answer according to my best interpretation.

We felt no need to publish other people’s DMs since that’s generally something you shouldn’t do, especially when establishing a relationship with people… So if you want to see them for yourself, you’ll have to ask Moss, since they were her and Ruud’s DMs. I don’t feel comfortable posting them myself.

Couple of issues there. For one thing, if the assurances are being given to the mod team only, then they aren’t being given to the community. They are being given to the mods.

Second, no one knows what those “assurances” are. I’m not talking about posting someone else’s DMs, I’m saying that recognizing people may take issue enough to even warrant that chat should be enough to know that this information would be needed. So there should have been enough thought to document what was discussed, have everyone involved know that it would be published, and do it.

Third, how do those “assurances” line up with the history of .world admins? What guarantees are being provided that they won’t interject at their leisure? Why would 196 be considered unique to them, since they have done exactly what everyone is concerned about?

We addressed a lot of other things in the post, too. If there’s anything we missed

Soooo many replies went ignored or just gave the same non-answer. I’d start there. Or by just resigning, which is way more efficient tbh.

We are people with our own lives and shit to deal with. We cannot respond to every reply, but I’ve given the 196 community an overwhelming amount of my time to address what I can, and I’m continuing to do so.

Which isn’t to say I respond to every comment, but if a new concern came up that wasn’t addressed in the OP, I responded to the first person to bring it up. My comment history for the past few days is evidence of this.

Plenty were missed, but lets push that aside here - why are you the only one responding to the majority of comments? Why was one mod posting, then (aside from some snarky replies) not replying to people who were concerned?

I don’t expect you to reply to every comment. I expect the mod team, especially after this massive faceplant, to reply.

For this reason, I value giving people patience and hearing them out, even if what they said has a transphobic “vibe”. (At least when what they are expressing isn’t blatant transphobia). When I joined the mod team, this is one of the values I intended to bring to the team.

I have a friend who transitioned some years back. When we talk about things before transitioning, we use her previous name, because that is who she was at the time, and that is her preference.

So I went out one night with her to meet her new friend, and long story short - phrased things in a way that was completely appropriate for my friend and how she preferred, but was not for her friend. Something for which I still feel like an asshole for, though her friend understands why and we are friends as well.

Anyway, point being - this is what is ok for you. Engaging, letting them explain. Should the entire community need to? Because you’d be forcing them to. As an alternative, for example, you could let that person immediately know why, and engage with them privately instead before restoring (or restoring with an edit, whatever the case may be).

Ran out of space! Will have to do a second reply, sorry…

Happy to wait. Especially as these are repeat issues many have wanted a response to, and has absolutely not been addressed.

As long as it doesn’t say something about how you should have announced the migration beforehand, in which case no further reply is needed.

Well, its been a full day. Any comment? Responses to the issues I raised?

Its just ticking past 24hrs now, so I’ll be commenting shortly (just have some work to do first)