• foggy@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I explained to a police officer in my beer sharing circles during the George Floyd protests:

    Damn near every kid in a high school cafeteria knows who the bad kids are and what tables they sit at. It’s no different anywhere in the real world. Every cop at every precinct knows which cops are the bad ones.

    Unlike a highschool cafeteria, you, as a police officer, have a civic, professional, and moral duty to do everything in your power to get those cops kicked the fuck out. And the idea that doing so might somehow harm your career? That’s why “all cops are bastards.” It’s rotten from the top down. A few bad apples, in the case of police officers, spoils the whole bunch.

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      9 months ago

      Systems can be bad, and the people who support and work within bad systems are bad, even if they act nice outside of that system.

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        9 months ago

        I disagree with the second part. That means everybody living in a first world country is inherently a bad person just by accident of their birth location. We’re well past the point of choosing whether or not we participate in most systems, and at the end of the day, somebody needs to do the job of law enforcement.

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            9 months ago

            Ok then, so people who vote in US elections are inherently evil? - a more analogous example

            People who consume bananas are inherently evil?

            People that have smartphones are inherently evil?

            Those things are all choices. How about another one? Lithium mining is a bad system that negatively impacts the environment. Therefore, people that buy electric cars are evil and bad for the environment, right?!?

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              9 months ago

              Becoming a cop is a life change, voting is standard, as is consuming bananas and using smartphones.

              Deliberately choosing to become a cop is bad, because there are a wealth of alternatives. Not true for voting, bananas, smartphones, or cars.

              A small subset of humans become cops, it isn’t a thing someone just chances into

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    9 months ago

    My sister in law is a (not American) cop when she’s not an EMT … And she also moonlights as a volunteer fireman.

    Where on the hero-bastard spectrum of cheap generalization you’ve devised does she sit?

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    9 months ago

    Hi German here, we say fuck ICE a lot because it’s a fast Train who always comes late. But to make a long story short, I am missing something here, what does ICE stand for?

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      9 months ago

      Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the US. They’re basically the ones who raid homes and businesses looking for undocumented workers

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        9 months ago

        And don’t forget about separating parents from children, holding illegal immigrants in overcrowded cells made from chain link fences inside buildings… They are America’s version of the Show me your papers patrol.