Math and science all have a philosophical core, it’s just that most of the time you don’t need to question it, so it’s easy to forget about it. Which is fine

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Yeah I used to follow the vegan group cos I like tips on vege eating but I had to quit cos the meat eater hatred was just too much

People have eaten meat for thousands of years. That’s been a matter of survival, not entertainment. But my comment was about people taking joy in killing, which is what the meme is about, not taking joy in eating,. I appreciate your zeal but I’d prefer you to not ascribe to me arguments I didn’t make

Oh I fully agree that not eating meat is the better alternative. I just thing the meme was stupid. There’s plenty of valid reasons to promote eating less meat without making up strawmen

I have. I note several responses from people in the thread who have.

What’s your problem with that? I’m not into it myself but I can’t see how it’s any different from eating meat in the first place

We need to eat. We don’t need tol take joy in aninal deaths. These are different things and the meme is dumb.

Don’t apologise. Totally my fault - I was being a dick. I’ve been on the other side of this kind of interaction with someone doubling down after being called out on being a jerk. I should do better. Thanks for your response

Sometimes you make a comment about something that seems interesting and then realise you’ve wandered into a enclypoedia convention and have bitten off more than you have the head space to deal with. I probably should have said that instead of what I did say. My apologies

Thank for your instruction, Internet rando

Whatevs

Good points but my question is more about governments that work at the scale of a nation state.

I’ve read Marx and I’m happy with my interpretation

I’d say that Marxism at least is fatally flawed. The idea that you start a Communist society by gathering all power to a central council is the issue. Once power is obtained it’s never willingly dispersed. This has been the fate of existing all communist governments

Which system IS stable? AFAICT every system ever has allowed some people more power than others and those people cleave more power to themselves over time. This appears to be how most empires fall

Raegan was a similar character previously. I don’t doubt they will arise again. Certainly, there are many Republicans with the same reactionary politics.

Trump is just the logical conclusion of the christo fascist takeover of the Republicans. It will be there when he’s gone

I dont think that’s smart, I think it’s just wrong.

Given you’re making up things I never said I can only imagine what you’re respinding to? Where did a massive lake of molten salt under every city come from?