All I’m saying is it’s not exactly “easy”, like I don’t think they’re intentionally blocking this for anti competitive reasons, I bet it’s more so cost of development, with an added benefit of driving purchases of proprietary accessories. Bluetooth is a terrible stack that’s super difficult to implement
So having enough of the Bluetooth stack implemented to do a controller is very different than having the audio portions of the Bluetooth stack implemented as well. It’s not a “one and done solution”, it’s more like a big mess
Because bluetooth audio playback is part of the kernel and pulseaudio/pipewire (and more) and unless sony want to run those on the ps5 (which arguably would be a bad idea at this point) that’s not really a useful analogy.
A better question is why a dedicated gaming company like nintendo could at least get some audio working while ps5 made by a much bigger and more diverse company can’t.
Arguably it’s because ps5 is a home console and audio playback is the realm of the tv or receiver/soundbar in that setting and they are more concerned with showing ads and spying on you than basic functionality nowadays…
When I first got a PS4 and tried to connect my headset to it I was told of was unsupported. After doing some digging I found that the only supported bluetooth headsets were specifically the ones that were branded as PlayStation. This wasn’t the case with the PS3, it was just a decision Sony made in order to sell their overpriced headsets.
The PS5 already have Bluetooth capabilities that are limited artificially by Sony.
The sole reason for that is greed. It is dumb as hell that you need a Bluetooth dongle on a machine that has Bluetooth in order to use a Bluetooth headset of your choice.
I had similar, my Bluetooth headphones that I’d been using with the PS3 didn’t work on my PS4, but I think the reason given was that they didn’t support Bluetooth encryption standards or something.
Like bro, I do not care if someone eavesdrops the audio of my Kingdom Hearts session - just give me the choice
I mean honestly:
A) Bluetooth spec is insane
B) Audio requires a driver write
All I’m saying is it’s not exactly “easy”, like I don’t think they’re intentionally blocking this for anti competitive reasons, I bet it’s more so cost of development, with an added benefit of driving purchases of proprietary accessories. Bluetooth is a terrible stack that’s super difficult to implement
Pretty sure the controllers connect over bluetooth already
That’s correct!
So having enough of the Bluetooth stack implemented to do a controller is very different than having the audio portions of the Bluetooth stack implemented as well. It’s not a “one and done solution”, it’s more like a big mess
If the nintendo switch can do it, so should a PS5.
What? Plenty of operating system implement it fine.
Why is a free, obscure Linux distro able to do it, while a billion dollar Corp can’t figure it out?
Because bluetooth audio playback is part of the kernel and pulseaudio/pipewire (and more) and unless sony want to run those on the ps5 (which arguably would be a bad idea at this point) that’s not really a useful analogy.
A better question is why a dedicated gaming company like nintendo could at least get some audio working while ps5 made by a much bigger and more diverse company can’t.
Arguably it’s because ps5 is a home console and audio playback is the realm of the tv or receiver/soundbar in that setting and they are more concerned with showing ads and spying on you than basic functionality nowadays…
PlayStations OS is based on FreeBSD, and FreeBSD has Bluetooth support.
They must have chosen to just disable it for some reason.
When I first got a PS4 and tried to connect my headset to it I was told of was unsupported. After doing some digging I found that the only supported bluetooth headsets were specifically the ones that were branded as PlayStation. This wasn’t the case with the PS3, it was just a decision Sony made in order to sell their overpriced headsets.
I have a headset on my PS5 that isn’t from Sony. Just get a Bluetooth dongle. Damn, people in this thread are drowning in a glass of water.
The PS5 already have Bluetooth capabilities that are limited artificially by Sony.
The sole reason for that is greed. It is dumb as hell that you need a Bluetooth dongle on a machine that has Bluetooth in order to use a Bluetooth headset of your choice.
I had similar, my Bluetooth headphones that I’d been using with the PS3 didn’t work on my PS4, but I think the reason given was that they didn’t support Bluetooth encryption standards or something.
Like bro, I do not care if someone eavesdrops the audio of my Kingdom Hearts session - just give me the choice
Bluetooth has an audio delay that is detrimental to games. You can buy a dongle and use other headsets as well. There’s nothing nefarious here:
Why not put a warning when connecting a Bluetooth headset instead of outright blocking it?
They already implement a Bluetooth microphone via their controller
The bluetooth stack for a company of this size is a solved problem.