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renzev@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

You do know you can just click the "reject all" button, right?

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You do know you can just click the "reject all" button, right?

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renzev@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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Context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqhPUmyrfGI
Without ads/tracking: https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=fqhPUmyrfGI

  • cryptik.rick@lemmynsfw.com
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    By using the service, you agree to the TOS. What you are “rejecting all” to are cookies. Still scummy behavior tho

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      Considering many internet providers now have bandwidth caps, it is my policy do not allow arbitrary data on my network (aka ads). It’s also my policy that my policy supersedes any arbitrary terms of services. And that any platform accessing my network henceforth retroactively accepts my policy and terms of service.

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        You could send that in a HTTP header, with the stipulation that the server responding would accept the terms.

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          “By responding to this request, you implicitly accept my terms and conditions.”

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        Then don’t use YouTube. Go find another provider giving out content for free.

        This is digital sovereign citizen bullshit. You were informed and it’s your call to accept or reject.

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          The sense of self-entitlement is high on Lemmy

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      Can’t agree to terms i can’t have read. Can’t have read all the terms because the average day would require tens of hours only to read them, much less understanding them.

      https://old.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/kuakx7/how_long_it_takes_to_read_the_tos_of_these/

      https://www.pcmag.com/news/it-would-take-17-hours-to-read-the-terms-conditions-of-the-13-most-popular

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/03/terms-of-service-online-contracts-fine-print

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        Ignorance of the law is only a defense if you’re a police officer

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          ToS are not law.

          https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/07/court-violating-terms-service-not-crime-bypassing

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            in the context of what yt enforce on their shit, yes they are law

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              • superbirra@lemmy.world
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                tbh I don’t care so much, I was just observing the stupidity of the reply :P

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            They are a contract. Courts have increasingly sided with corporations on making consent be implied and also allowing corporations to pretty much change the terms and conditions at will.

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                It would be trivial. Because they don’t need to win. Just bury you in a long drawn out court battle you can’t possibly hope to afford so you drop out. Thankfully individual users are not worth their time

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          TOS is not law lmao

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            in the context of what yt enforce on their shit, yes.

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              • superbirra@lemmy.world
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                I think they’re content with banning you

                • 🐑🇸 🇭 🇪 🇪 🇵 🇱 🇪🐑@lemmy.world
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                  Ohh soooo scary a ban. A ban from the page that refuses to ban anyone from watching because they’re THAT desperate for engagement. Ohhh so scary a ban that I can easily just bypass anyways ooooooh.

                  They can feel free to try. In fact I’d prefer that over attempts at guilt tripping me. However it’s also 100% not going to work.

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                    mmh, why exactly are you so passionate about a thing which for sure does not matter to me, but it seems neither to you? :)

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      You can’t agree to it until you visit the website and actually read it. Your logic doesn’t really follow

      Edit: for those downvoting here’s an article from the EFF agreeing with me. https://www.eff.org/wp/clicks-bind-ways-users-agree-online-terms-service

      However, courts generally do not require that you actually have read the terms, but just that you had reasonable notice and an opportunity to read them.

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        Nope. Not how it works. You don’t have to agree to anything. You don’t have to read anything. The provider has to inform you, which they do even if you block it.

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          Edit: here’s the EFF agreeing with me. If you don’t read any of the below then you should still read this. https://www.eff.org/wp/clicks-bind-ways-users-agree-online-terms-service

          ——-

          That’s literally absolutely unequivocally incorrect. I have no clue why you think that but even a cursory glance at Wikipedia would have shown you you’re incorrect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_service

          If you want more information you can go ahead and read up on GDPR or one of the numerous other laws around the world stating exactly the opposite of what you’re saying.

          Here’s some links for you.

          https://helpcenter.yola.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011549640-Creating-GDPR-compliant-Terms-and-Conditions-with-a-sample-#h_01HE82BYF85W8SHFW3BFDZQ7DY

          https://www.contractscounsel.com/t/us/terms-of-service

          And if you had actually watched the Louis Rossman video someone linked below, he literally discusses these things.

          I’m sorry but you’re just completely wrong.

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          I don’t believe you’re correct about this. Corporations love your take here, though. They absolutely have entire teams of lawyers that push this narrative as best they can.

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          The law still allows me to control what appears on my device

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