• nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Yeah because working outside and still doing all the domestic work is so much better than being confined to the house. Who needs feminism?

    No doubt the Soviet Union was a huge step forward for women but this is just a dumb thing to say. Women doing unpaid household labour and emotional labour has always been the case.

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      The USSR was also the first country on a large scale to move unpaid domestic labour into the paid socialized sector: it created communal kitchens, communal child-care, all paid for by the state. The PRC followed that same model.

      How are you liberals this ignorant of these attempts? Marxist feminists started the domestic labor debate, and were the only ones who attempted to put solutions into practice.

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        You don’t need all of these communal things if a family simply raises their kids in a traditional way. What you’re describing is the commoditization of the nuclear family. It’s roundabout and worse overall. No one will love your kids and care for them like you will. Also the state pays for nothing because the state makes no money. It comes from the labor of the people. So really the mom is forced into the workforce to pay for childcare. Lol.

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          Hello I have one nuclear family to sell in the form of watching their child for a few hours. I am also in the market to buy. I also buy them by watching their kids.

          The word I use for that is commoditization. That’s what it means.

          Thank you.

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            Yeah exactly. Mom is going to work to pay for someone to watch her kids when she could just do it herself.

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              So you just woke up from your mother’s womb today and experienced the concepts of ‘division of labor’ and ‘commerce’ for the first time, huh?

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                  The reason I’m ‘ignoring’ your point is because you’re a fucking moron acting in bad faith. You took the existence of child care as a state service and morphed it in your mind palace to mean parents aren’t raising their children anymore.

                  And ‘forced’ to go to work? Are you a fucking child? Work is how food and shelter happens literally everywhere they exist and in every possible economic system. Your ‘point’ is saying normal things in a scary voice. So the only productive way to engage with you is through mockery and insults. Because you’re fucking stupid, buddy.

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                    Wah wah ad hominem. By your logic the state could just pay her to be a Mom.