This popped up in my feed today:

The vast majority of these people died before the US even conceptually existed.

Disgusting take, acting as if genocide was not colonial policy. You desperately need to read Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz - an indigenous people’s history of the US.

Killed an entire continent of peoples and enslaved millions of people from another one to make agricultural commodities.

Also during ww2 the US refused a ship of jews fleeing nazi germany and made them return.

They also won’t make anti-semitism illegal cause freeze peach, so US cops often protect white supremacist groups during protests from righteously outraged ppl. US cops also often recruit directly from those groups, and use them to carry out illegal things actions they don’t want to be responsible for. There isn’t enough space here to even get into the US’s anti-semitic past.

100% agreed. Ruling classes make laws to suit their interests, and law is opposed to morality and compassion in a lot of cases. US slavery was legal. South African and Israeli apartheid were/are legal. US torture camps like Guantanamo bay and Abu Ghraib are legal.

Even plea-bargaining in the US is a form of medieval-type coercion (confess your sins and we’ll reduce your punishment), and is a pillar of their justice system.

Broad estimates of US war victims range up to 12 million (a liberal estimate), whereas the Nazis killed over 13 million through mass killings alone (eg the Holocaust + exterminated minorities). The Soviet Union alone lost 20 to 27 million depending on who you ask.

In addition to the 500k-millions of native peoples and hundreds of tribes the US systematically nearly eradicated, lets take just a few more examples.

• Vietnam: 1.5M killed
• Laos: 300k
• Iraq: 1M
• Indonesia: 500k-1M
• Korea: 500k
• Japan: 200k-1M in civilian bombings

And I haven’t even started on operation condor and latin america yet.

Give me any nazi atrocity and I can provide an example of the US doing it, and probably far worse and on a larger scale.

List of US atrocities.

Nazi germany explicitly tried to copy the US project (lebensraum evicting eastern europe, rather than manifest destiny evicting native americans), and failed.

The only reason nazi germany is demonized more than the US, is because they lost. The US has committed far more atrocities, and on a larger scale.

The western powers led by the US use tanks far more often also. The US never gets accused of being tankies, even tho it used tanks in almost every one of its wars, including the wars on Iraq, Panama, Grenada.

It also uses tanks domestically against the people (police in every city have tank-like vehicles). They also used tanks in the waco standoff also where they burned ~100 people alive.

Of course the US prefers bombing people from the sky, but that’s not considered an atrocity by western chauvinists.

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But now that Maduro’s VP has expressed a willingness to cooperate with Trump

100% false. Do not trust anything just because “Trump says” or “Rubio says”

Please report comments like these yall.

The only euro media I’ve found that’s been even slightly critical so far, is rtve (Spain).

Rockhill - The US didn’t defeat Fascism in world war 2, it discreetly internationalized it

Y quien no lea a Lenin, es un ignorante

“I hate tankies”

“Operation condor, operation gladio? whats that?”

A few other related ones:

• The confirmed cia program to start the crack epidemic and use it to profit off of and impoverish black communities in the US. Read gary webb - dark alliance for more on that.
• The historical and still ongoing spread of alcohol to native communities in the US.
• The CIA pretty much took over the majority of international drug trade after ww2 via the helliwell plan(modelled on Chiang kai-sheks program) , and used it to fund their covert ops. A lot more on that in williams - operation gladio.

For sure, their space program feats and plans are incredibly exciting, and things we might see in our lifetime. There’s a hopeful star-trek-esque optimism about space rn.

I’m not sure about teachers salaries, I’d have to look it up, but I do know teachers are well respected societally.

So who told you china is trustworthy?

The Chinese people. Non-anecdotal evidence, from an anglo source:

• In contrast to low US political approval ratings, 96% of Chinese are satisfied with the national government (Edelmans 2016). World Values Surveys says that 83% think the country is run for their benefit rather than for the benefit of special groups. A Harvard research center study of long-term public opinion survey finds that > 95% of Chinese citizens approved their government. How is this possible in a one-party state? (TED talk by Eric X Li)
• The real wage (IE the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it’s the most populous country on the planet. The US real wage by comparison is lower in 2019 than it was in 1973.
• CGTN documentary - China’s war on poverty

“Gonna need to see a source from a white country before I’ll believe anything positive about China, the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba. If it ain’t white, it ain’t right.”

• Average anglophone media enjoyer