• KptnAutismus@lemmy.world
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    i hate fascists with a passion, but i might not agree with how antifa acts. i do not have any experience with the group itself, i might even agree with them.

    for example, i do not like how the last generation glued themselves to streets. that doesn’t make me a climate denier, does it?

    EDIT: it seems i misunderstood what antifa is. i always saw it as “the group of violent extremist protesters that throw rocks and light up cars”

    again, i am fully for doing everything i can against fascists. but violent protests don’t contribute, all it does is make your movement the next boogeyman.

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      I’m not pro Hitler, but did they really have to bully the poor man to suicide?

      • @KptnAutismus, probably
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      There is no organization Antifa. It’s an ideology. So if you are against the ideology of anti fascism, what are you for?

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        i am against throwing rocks at police and lighting cars on fire in the name of antifascism. you don’t get taken seriously if you’re the one comitting arson.

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      There is no singular group called “antifa”. It’s a movement of loosely (at best) interconnected but independent, antifascist groups.
      Also, we need all these groups. It’s them who usually organize rallies against racism, fascism, antisemitism, inhuman law proposals, et cetera. Also they organize all sorts of other actions against alt right, far right and (neo-)nazis, like disrupting their rallies and standing in the way of goon squads.
      Antifa groups are damn important.

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      I’m baffled as to what the point of this comment is, besides waffling about the virtues of not picking sides for not picking sides’ sake.

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        i have picked the side that’s stopping fascists. but the enemy of my enemy isn’t automatically my friend. i do not respect movents who are known for committing arson and battery regularly.

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          I see your edit above, i see the comments you posted after said edit, and I’m not sure you now actually got what antifa means. Especially the part about it not being a single, coherent organization doesn’t seem to get to you.

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            it did. but these smaller, unorganized groups are regularly holding violent protests around my area. and they identify with antifa.

            i probably identify with the core values of what it means to be antifascist, but again, i don’t want to be seen as extremist and/or violent.

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      Its not “the group”.If you look in left and right wing violence in most countries you’ll see a huge disparity, even after the right wing police has significantly biased the statistics. Most people in Antifa groups just go to demos, organize workshops and put political stickers up.

      Thats alle the stuff Fox wants to villify, because they want people to be fascists.