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To the US President (of any name or time period) … they only identify two types of humans
American or non-American
Well, 3 is bigger than 25.000.
It’s simpler than that I suspect. Unlike children in Gaza, he sees US soldiers as being human.
It was already obvious by comparing how they acted when the killed civilians where Ukrainian and when they where palistinians. The mask had slipped, revealing what many had already suspected: The tears are always a lie.
Old enough to remember how Kiby was crying crocodile tears at the podium when the war in Ukraine started. Now he’s busy tirelessly defending Israeli atrocities with not a tear to shed for the victims. This is the famous rules based world order on full display.
When people say there’s no difference between the GOP and the DNC, they’re wrong:
- GOP: Wants to kill brown people
- DNC: Doesn’t care if brown people die
This is the stupidest timeline.
Democrats are literally participating in a genocide in Gaza with Israel as we speak, and talking about starting a war with Iran. Not only does the DNC want to kill brown people, they’re actively doing it at an industrial scale.
It is simply his job to look after those, his own people, who elected him first, rather than looking after others first for whom he is not directly responsible and over whom he has no direct leadership.
Do elaborate on how sending troops half way across the world to occupy a country illegally is looking after his own people. Can’t wait for you to make it make sense.
What gives you the idea that the base in Jordan is to occupy? Jordan is a sovereign country and an allie so what do you mean?
One little problem here is that Jordan states that the base is not in Jordan but in Syria where US is currently occupying a larger percentage of territory than Russia is in Ukraine
Jordanian Minister of Government Communications Muhannad Mubaidin said Sunday that the attack targeting U.S. forces near the Syrian border did not occur inside Jordan.
Mubaidin told the state-run Al Mamlaka TV that the attack targeted the al-Tanf base in southeastern Syria.
https://english.news.cn/20240129/36e8ff659d624869b1473c4a80a35b86/c.html
These are two different bases. It is a contradiction in terms to say near the syrian border and in syria at the same time.
Tower 22 which got attacked is in Jordan and potentially a supply post for the al-Tanf base in southeastern Syria.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-is-tower-22-site-attack-us-troops-jordan-2024-01-28/
Again, Jordan is denying there were any attacks on its territory.
This seems like what about-ism to the original topic. Regardless, this is a U.S. base that was established during the war on terror.
“U.S. troops returned to Iraq in 2014 after entirely withdrawing in 2011. They returned at the invitation of the Iraqi government, which was struggling to fend off a devastating Islamic State takeover of one-third of the country. The following year, the U.S. deployed troops to Syria to help the nascent SDF defeat the same group.” [1]
Although the base was still actively being used by U.S. forces, we were working on removing U.S. troops.
“Another report on Wednesday by Reuters revealed that the U.S. and Iraq will begin talks on ending the American-led coalition troop presence in that country, conveying the message in a letter to Iraq’s foreign minister. The report noted these talks will likely last several months, with a potential U.S. withdrawal far from imminent.” [2]. Look at [3] for Reuters article.
Outside of what Biden wanted to do, congress has already implied that they wanted those troops to stay there [4]. Even if Biden ignored the fact that a law requiring this much was struck down by congress (I don’t know if he even could), he would be destroying his reputation with law makers and could be risking his public reputation.
The main purpose of the base was to combat Islamic extremists who were operating outside of Syria. We can debate if the war on terror was a good idea, however it was already previous U.S. doctrine. The big thing to remember, is that there was an ongoing effort to remove the base.
You can shit talk the people who put that base there, but I don’t think it’s fair to say “Biden is not looking after his own people” just because he didn’t create some lunatic order to withdraw on short notice like what trump repeatedly did during his presidency.
War on terror was US adventurism that has no basis in the international law. UN never authorized this. US just likes to play world police. Really that simple. Meanwhile, Islamic terrorism is the direct product of US overthrowing secular and socialist governments around Middle East using groups like Mujahideen that have now evolved into IS and the Taliban.
US is a scourge upon humanity, and the sooner it gets pushed out of the Middle East the better things will be for the people living there.
What do you want him to do? Israel is a major military partner and is one of the only semi-sane governments in the area.
I get the disdain for Israels tactics, their risk to civilian calculations are well out of wack. They need to stop the settlements shit.
But, what do people really want him to do? We do not need to go to war with Israel, all that’s going to do is put Israeli lives at extreme risk. Most Gazans have started supporting Hamas (https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514) and Hamas has proven that they don’t care about Israeli civilians.
What is it people want from him, just to virtue signal? Don’t get me wrong, I’m disgusted by Isreal’s conduct, but there isn’t anything he can do that would do anything more than virtue signal.
Imagine saying that a genocidal apartheid state is “one of the only semi-sane governments in the area”. Meanwhile, US support for everything Israel has been doing since it was formed is the sole reason for Israel being what it is today. The only thing US brings to the world is horror and suffering.
It’s pretty obvious what genocide Joe should do. He should pack up and leave. It’s that simple. Instead, this senile sack of shit is dragging the world in tow WW3 right now. US and Israel deserve everything that’s coming to them.
The problem with your argument against Israel is that everyone around them is so much worse. None of the countries around them respect any form of human rights, and some of them (including Hamas) actively want to try and commit their own genocides. This much was obvious given how Hamas fighters acted on the Oct attacks (I think it should be common knowledge that they did target civilians as apposed to just military targets, however here is a taste [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch6T9oR6tro]).
“The only thing US brings to the world is horror and suffering.”, this should be an obviously hyperbolic statement. What about World War II? Are you not saying that the U.S. at least brought some good by fighting the Nazi’s.
“It’s pretty obvious what genocide Joe should do. He should pack up and leave”. First of all, it is abhorrent to say anyone should do any sort of genocide. I know you likely didn’t mean it like that, and I don’t want you to think I’m trying to nit pick. I just want to encourage people to be careful with their words.
My second point on that quote, is that your missing the point. Have a little empathy. Regardless of how effective it would be at curbing Israelis actions in Gaza, this would have severe ramifications on civilians. Despite our shared thoughts on Israel, withdrawing US troops would likely both do nothing to curb Israels attacks on Gaza (Israel has a long history of operating fine without the US [2]) and it would only put Israeli lives at risk due to the bombing campaigns conducted by groups like Hamas.
[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch6T9oR6tro
[2] - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/16/why-israel-allies-explainer
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Everyone around them is a direct product of US meddling in the region since time immemorial. US is the actual problem, and nothing will get better for the region until US is pushed out. It’s that simple. And yes, have a little sympathy for the millions of people US massacred in the Middle East, and the thousands Israel is massacring today with US aid.
The position you’re attempting to argue here is simply indefensible.
