There are many full grown adults who aren’t self aware.

Are we looking at the same map? Looks like California is far less emissions heavy than the flyover states. High proportions of solar panel energy, too.

Never seen the show, but isn’t this an instance where cross-dressing is seen as a gag and not necessarily an acceptable and normal thing to do?

People always say this but like … he is actually good looking? Not movie star good looks, but yeah his face looks good. I always assume this is coming from straight guys.

These young men can … listen to women??? They don’t need to be spoon fed feminism by friends, there is a ton of information available if they care to learn. The fact that they choose to listen to sexist assholes rather than have their feelings hurt for two seconds is part of the problem dumbass

L M A O white nerdy young men are not the perfect angels you think, I have multiple friends who were sexually assaulted by such people

To me it just means people are more eloquent about their transphobia or their rationalization of genocide 🙄

A vote for Biden is a signal to the Democratic party that we like what they’re doing. There is no incentive for Democrats to change if we keep voting them in out of fear. Right now they are just incentived to be slightly better than the proud White Nationalist dude, which is an extremely low bar.

Right, so you’re willing to throw Palestinians under the bus. The strategic action I am talking about is refusing to vote for candidates who will fund the genocide.

Minorities are going through hell under Biden! He is not an ally. I don’t see how Democrats would try to appeal to Trump voters if they can demonstrably see that a HUGE chunk of voters need a more left candidate. A vote for Biden is a vote for no change whatsoever. It gives Biden and the Democratic party no incentive to change.

The Republican voters are still very much obsessed with Trump. We deserve a candidate that people actually want to support.

It’s more like drinking expired milk and both have different quantities of cyanide, and both milks are funding genocide. You’re dying either way. Strategic action could shift things, blindly voting for Democrats no matter what they do gives them no incentive to change their behavior.

It’s not 2016 anymore. Check out the primary results, 10-20% of people did not vote for Biden as part of a deliberate movement.

Biden is definitely more palatable, but at the end of the day, either way we will have a president happy to fund genocide. Either way we waste billions on military, have a huge incarcerated prison population, deport immigrants, could go on. Biden was vice president during Obama’s drone strikes.

You’re not getting it, it doesn’t matter who wins the next election because Trump and Biden are so very similar. So many of the things people are saying Trump will do is already happening under the Biden administration. If the Democrats saw that they lost the election bc 10-20% of voters issued a protest or third party vote, which actually happened during the primaries, it would make a huge impact.

If they keep moving right, eventually they WILL lose Democrats. I don’t really imagine mainstream Democrats suddenly changing their views on abortion, for example. So there will have to be a party that caters towards that HUGE demographic, whether it’s the Dems or another party that fills in.

I don’t see how affirming the actions of the current administration does anything but to entrench Dems in their belief that they can get away with anything and liberals would still vote them in. It just emboldens them to be more conservative.

To get out of the weird negativity you brought into the discussion -

Biden and Trump are much closer to each other politically than the Democrats would have us believe. Voting for third party could make the Democrats run more left-leaning candidates. If we keep voting for Democrats no matter what they do, they have no motivation to change! Why would Biden suddenly stop FUNDING Israel after we vote him in again? What is the motivation? But if Democrats lose or nearly lose the election due to losing votes, that’s amazing motivation to change.

You’re being intentionally obtuse right now lol this isn’t the own you think it is. You just seem a bit slow.

Exactly, why vote for him? Vote for a third party candidate and stop voting in fascists.

Yes, at the pace we are going under Biden. Under Biden.

If the Democrats go full Trump eventually they would lose the moderate liberals and a third party could step in. I don’t see that as the likelier option.

Something like 10-20% of voters in the primary did protest votes. It’s a huge chunk of people.

And it’s also people they currently see as their base, the Democrats are trying to appeal to the conservatives because they believe (correctly) that they can do just about anything and people will continue to vote for them.