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  • I think its a core design issue; if votes are free and unlimited then they will be gamified, one method to provide a feedback mechanism here is to make votes accountable.

    There are other moderation styles, like the slashdot random moderation points, which show some promise.

    I’ve seen other gamified models where downvotes are scarce, or cost time, or cost money, so they are reserved for bad behavior.

    The design of showing votes on posts makes it a signal, and that signal will be gamified. I think for smaller communities having outside third parties chill participation is bad for the overall growth of lemmy. In the long term I imagine a community level system selected by the moderators would fit best.

    examples

    • Only people who have posted or commented can downvote / upvote
    • Only people who are subscribed can upvote/downvote
    • only people who have repetitional guarantees can upvote/downvote
    • posts only visible to subscribers

    Just trying to get local representation into communities.

    etc. etc















  • I’m sure internally they have an internal dollar figure on cost per customer acquired. Such things as marketing, discounts, product availability and different stores, targeted marketing campaigns, B2B sales reps, I.e.identifying corporate customers before they are entrenched with another vendor and actioning on them first.

    So in that mental model, each customer acquired has a cost, and the behavior of that customer has a benefit, I suppose what the HP representative is trying to say is the sale on the printer by itself is insufficient to justify the effort and cost of acquiring a customer. They want recurring revenue. Which everybody does