Super Trump

you need the modesty tie on the left… probably sexy.

After the 2nd world war, we said surely this is the last big one, with understanding that ww4 would be fought with sticks and stones.

we might have thought nazi ideology would be gone too, but we decided to cognitively coherently separate pro US/NATO nazis from anti-NATO nazis, chasing ghosts of communism and warmongering towards nuclear powers became the cool thing again so easily.

what would Europe need from russia?

Resources is big one, including infrastructure already in place for energy. Most of the world sides with Russia through this conflict. Even some US colonies have done well playing both sides. Russia is also an export market. World needs Russia to limit global warming. Futile attempts to destroy it, won’t work.

Russia put troops into Crimea before the referendum, and the referendum was run by the occupying army. Do you normally trust occupying armies to run referendums about whether or not they should get to keep the land they’re occupying?

97% in favour of Crimea joining Russia. Western polling was a solid 70%+. The new 2014 regime was legitimately divisive to the point that the majority ethnic Russian populations in Ukraine did not want to submit to them.

Russophobia has been the big disease, really created by US/USAID/NED/CIA. Europe seems to need a moment to let go, but if US isn’t forcing them into it, the rest of the world has already been open to Russia and China. Trump is literally forcing the world to liberate itself from US. The US is still a nice market, but China is much larger to sell into, and tariff wars are not likely to bring investments into the US.

A multipolar world makes as much obvious sense as democracy. But it is pretty remarkable that US is pushing for it now.

Current likelihood is that there’s only a mineral deal if US pays Zelensky/Ukraine to fight more. Security guarantees don’t actually cost anything until you have to do something, and its pretty likely that any weapons would be used to provoke aggression during ceasefire instead of protecting Ukraine’s neutrality.

It’s Europe that wants war more than US, and so it’s far more likely they get the mineral deal to keep going to the last Ukrainian.

Does anyone wank to threats to US president? or is that too pervy for interwebs?

UK is indeed “close” to US. Unequal relationship where US keeps dangling free trade deal, but never delivers, no matter how many pipelines Liz Truss helps blow up. It is more of a close political relationship, rather than UK people desperate to follow every war. Musk threatening to liberate UK from liberals they voted for last, is a strain on public opinion. US using Greenland to threaten EU would lose US’s shine as a beacon of freedom, as perhaps tariffs on Canada, to extort its sovereignty, do. UK would see alliance with US much as Canada realizes.

I think the reference is to “pipe union” adapters. Not sure the chemistry reference.

Trump is evil. Overthinking his motivations for evil to conform to your previous worldview harms you. America is “greater” with greater threat it can impose on Europe.

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Not sure what your other country reference is, but all lies that US did not capture Ukraine in coup to provoke this war that it wants is disinformation. US wanted this war, and Russia never did. That Trump doesn’t want to continue the war because it is losing is neither a good reason to want to continue it yourself, to imagine that US is now pro Russia, or that you must beg US to stay your “friend”.

NATO - an alliance composed specifically to stop Russian annexation of neighbor states

There is no such NATO mission. Only to protect alliance members. That it has unofficially become an antagonist evil with desires to diminish Russia, does not make that its mission. Coups over former CIS states was never mission. Just demonism.

Whereas free Russian movement along Greenland’s coast would be protected if it was under the control of a Putin-friendly US

First, you need to stop with Putin friendly US fantasies. But doing so would make Putin friend EU much faster. The reason to for a Putin friendly US is entirely to diminish/colonize Europe even more than Biden did.

A Putin friendly US still doesn’t need Greenland. EU oppression exists without Putin friendliness. EU is not to be permitted to block Russian trade with US, with US-Russia alliance. Greenland for US has absolutely zero benefits to Russia in a normal world. Only to better threaten EU with missiles and aircraft.

The US simply wants to move away from wars it cannot win, towards easy wars. Including vast gains on an already subservient EU. Rather than framing the world in Putin Derangement Syndrome, EU needs to focus on the direct enemy actions of US towards it. Those who advocate for increased subjugation as desperate measures to appease an enemy should be shut down. Russia never wanted to be EU’s enemy, and EU needs to wake up as to who its real enemies are.

Trump is also trying to get Canada to become a US territory.

Directly hateful to Canada. Picking a war US can win without fighting. Europe is next. You need to stop right there instead of framing your thinking around the idiocy of escalating war on Russia or China or Iran as “any part whatsoever towards a solution that frees you from US aggression”.

Those international waters are very narrow and have been a thorn in the side of Russia forever.

The narrowest passage between Iceland and other NATO member is 800km wide with paths that have no international rights for jurisdiction/interdiction.

Crimea has better ports, but Russia still had Black Sea border without it, and had a lease for port prior to the nearly unanimous referendum to abandon a Ukraine made to hate the vast majority of Crimeans. Crimea was a gift to Ukraine in 1957, people still alive, and there was little to no ethnic Ukrainian migration to the area.

At any rate, Turkey can permit access to Africa/ME. Other NATO members can only stop trade with themselves, with Spain preventing access to Atlantic.

They would only need access to North Atlantic if shipping to North America. This would be because they are welcome to ship there, and they would join in seeing it as unwelcome any blockade efforts. There is an international waters path to get there. Greenland and Panama have zero impact on Russia.

If EU wants to blockade trade between Russia and eastern Americas, it needs to blockade vast international waters between Iceland and UK, in addition to Baltic sea. Blocking such trade will be viewed as act of war by Russia and Americas, and Russia navy alone is enough to break through/sink EU blockade, or nuke the degenerates.

There is extreme likelihood of EU understanding Russia makes a better friend than US in long term, and failure of this understanding is certain electoral failure. That center-moderate support for nazis in Ukraine is not the obvious moral high ground over home nazis, that happen to be nato skeptics, everyone here seems to think it is. The Ukrainian nazi diminishment of Russia is only a EU favour to US.

Russia has a Pacific coast that means it never needs to use Panama Canal.

Need to stop with any fantasies that US needs Greenland in order to gift Russia anything whatsoever. Russia has access to both oceans and does not need to go anywhere near Greenland to even ship to US or Canada, much less Europe. It does not care about any resources in Greenland because the closest consumer is eastern Canada and US.

Yes Trump wants to leave NATO. If Greenland stays part of Denmark/NATO then that can threaten US.

There are international waters between Iceland and UK. When US is part of NATO, with as a matter of fact, dictatorial control over NATO, ownership of Greenland doesn’t matter. It is only a severance of US/NATO alliance that makes Greenland matter.

Absolutely absurdity that has to stop. Greenland is far away from Russia. Fine, some possible ICBM missile trajectories go over Greenland, but NATO is not going to stop US from putting missile shield or offensive nukes in Greenland, as long as it stays under NATO oversight. The Putin Derangement Syndrome that extends to explaining all Trump actions as gifts to Russia needs to stop being said out loud. Pure CIA disinformation to somehow brainwash Europe into accepting this.