We as in me? Didn’t think I was. Even specified that I didn’t care about the specific “who”.
We as in the royal we? I reckon because the post was making a point about not romanticizing past presidents in the face of our current super awful kiddy diddler and you took offense to the specificity?
Well, it was literally mentioned in the post. Unlike… Kamala and Israel.
And you responded to my comment regarding it with random facts trying to soften how terrible it is, historically speaking.
So if we are talking obsessive behavior… Not sure it’s mine that qualifies.
Lol, omfg, Lemmy is nuts sometimes.
No, I dont think we are better off with the known child rapist Donald Trump. I actually also think it’s quite unlikely that Kamala has raped children or owned slaves.
But I do stand by my claim that child rape and slavery are worse enemies of good than “perfection”. And if your response to that is “child rape is still a relative concept”, then I’m sorry to say you can piss up a rope.
I voted for harm reduction like a sensible person, now can I please be offended over children getting raped or do I need to pass another purity test?
Don’t recall saying that child rape or slavery are unique to anyone, just that they are a worse affront to “good” than “perfection”. I’m against them in all their manifestations. Don’t really care who specifically tbh.
But I’d also go so far as to say that just because “America bad” is trendy, doesn’t mean these child raping slavers are being unfairly targeted. Cuz you know, they did have slaves and diddled kids.
Perhaps, and I didn’t get a philosophy degree so take this with a grain of salt, but slavery and child rape seem to be even greater enemies of good.
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Laughs in A Tale of Two Wastelands.
“Kinda sorta” is definitely the best way to put it.
How do they support themselves now? Usually by having another income stream, or not very well…
Though I’m not suggesting they should give away their work for free. I’m saying they should maintain rights (and consequently royalties) to their work.
Regardless, we preferably would remove capitalism outright and work towards a future where artists can pursue their art for its own sake. Everything else is a bandaid.
So… Sounds like the health insurance companies, the companies that buy and redistribute intellectual properties for profit, and the general for profit systems are the problem?
You quote me saying Russians have fascists in their government and military, something I sent you articles demonstrating that you didnt even bother to read, and then have the audacity to pretend like I owe you more research and need to prove a claim I never made? Get outta here with that nonsense.
You never managed to demonstrate that Ukraine is run by Nazis, nor that it is even a “systemic problem”. You just showed that like many countries, Ukraine has an ultra right nationalist party that failed to grab power, and idiot Neo-Nazis. Which I said should be fought against at every level… In every country… Including Ukraine… Yet you resort to another personal attack calling me a Nazis sympathizer.
Funny thing is, I liked your meme, I agreed with the point you were making, and had you come at me with the intention to demonstrate Ukraine isn’t some saint country without problems, we would have found common ground. No country is, and often times the problems of an underdog country are overlooked to avoid appearing like one is supporting a larger warmongering country.
But because I rejected a simple, all or nothing lie about the country, you instead felt the need to move goals posts, strawman my points, and fling personal insults.
Do you think lying, exaggerating, and attacking people will benefit your point in anyway? Do you think strawmanning points and moving goalposts will lead to a deeper mutual understanding? Or are you just so angry that you want the fight, and there is no point beyond that?
Honestly man, I feel kind of bad for you. Good luck, I hope you can find some joy in your life.
Lol, many countries do have open fascists in their military and government, Russia and the United States among them. Funny thing about folks who are willing to kill for their country, they are often ultra nationalists. A couple of the articles I sent you clearly demonstrate this in regards to Russia.
Regardless, you never even came close to supporting the claim “Ukraine is run by Nazis”. Worse for your point still, one of your sources stated clearly that said claim is demonstrably not true.
And while fascists and Nazis should be called out and shutdown on every level in every country, including Ukraine, exaggerating the extent to which these ideologies have infiltrated a government to justify war is blatantly propaganda and evil.
I’ll take your personal attacks on me as you admitting you overstated the strength of your “evidence”. Next time someone makes a clear cut argument like “Ukraine is run by Nazis”, don’t provide evidence that literally says that’s not the case and then pretend like it supports the claim. That’s not “too complex to understand”, that’s just lying.
So… A handful of articles about individuals in Ukraine, a march of 300 nazi sympathizers, actions of a reported terrorist organization, and an article that states the following:
Ever since Ukraine’s February revolution, the Kremlin has characterised the new leaders in Kiev as a “fascist junta” made up of neo-Nazis and anti-Semites, set on persecuting, if not eradicating, the Russian-speaking population. This is demonstrably false. Far-right parties failed to pass a 5% barrier to enter parliament
You just wasted a lot of my time… Many countries have idiots, my own has plenty of jackasses who could be called Nazi sympathizers. That doesn’t mean the country is run by Nazis, and to claim such is very obviously propaganda. I wonder if you would be so willing to generalize a whole nation and its government if the rubberband was on the other claw?
In the first half.
Ukraine is run by nazis
Or are we playing the “everyone I dont like is a nazi” game? In that case, Russia and my HoA is run by Nazis!
I f**king love how censoring curse words has become the new c*rsing for the internet!
Used to be that cursing was a way to show your disdain for having restrictions placed on your freedom of expression. Now cursing without censorship is considered “polite internet speech” and adding an * is offensive and uncouth. Your right to express yourself how you choose be d*mned!
The irony is too good!
Throw in some speelling errors and watch people go f**king insane.
I dunno bro, any one who has had the audacity to say something in support of Ukraine more than a few times on Lemmy has had the joyous experience of having multiple .ml users rant to them about Ukraine being run by Nazis. Or some other such nonsense.
I get that it’s unfair to generalize the entire instance. But .ml users like yourself, who consistently refuse to acknowledge the problem, act as a shield to these bad actors. Your instance has a problem, and if you all keep ignoring it, you become a safe-haven for it, and will eventually be consumed by it.