Not bad as in “ovverral good” or not bad as “never wrong”?

Anyways I’d say Marco Pannella and Mattarella. (not always good, but overall not that bad)

The US president in the 20 years are either racists, kill children’s with drones or they lie and starts war in Iraq, so no I don’t want to select any US politician for the role of “not bad”.

I am not going to lie I don’t understand what is your problem with the discussion about Russia.

The context of the thread is the same, so it’s actually useful for the discussion

I actually agree on this.

Well, he also devided il Sud and il Nord. But this isn’t the discussion.

It’s about “not everything politicians make is bad”. I know that this is usually an argument made by people that sympatieyz Mussolini (“però i treni arrivavano in orario” - any far-right sympatizer), but I think that in some cases it’s actually not a bad argument (for example, Giolitti and MAYBE but maybe Berlusconi).

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This is exactly how I think about this argument, thanks for bringing it up.

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Well, that’s exactly the idea behind state’s propaganda.

Anyways, I keep my opinion that not all politicians are bad, in my case I only know well about Italy and the US.

Also, the discussion made from the other user references to the Russian history, but the argument is the same, so I don’t understand what the problem is, being the thread about the same concept.

Saying that ALL politicians between the 1920s to the 2010s in Italy is wrong. You can search about De Gasperi, Berlinguer, Giolitti (I know, different eras) and others. I’m not saying everything they did was right, but they not all politicians are as bad as your comment is depicting.