I have to admit that I downvote this because I have to google for a non-existent term ‘Faschists’. No heart feeling.

It would be silly to acknowledge US imperialism and ignore China’s Belt and road imperialism.

I don’t ignore China’s act. In fact I acknowledge both. It’s normal that some powerful countries would want to exert control upon others. The question is their methodologies and how long can they sustain the approval.

The only difference is those manufactured islands that are designed to expand China’s landmass

Yeah, none of the SEA countries are happy with this. But they’re dependent on the relationship and they don’t have the capacity to resist. The best they can do is, “We’ll solve this diplomatically”. I think what’s currently happen with Philippines with will set the precedence for the future as they have gone beyond just claiming the territory.

I wonder what you think about the Chinese concept of the “central kingdom”…

I don’t know much about this. need to read more on this.

BTW, in no such way that I say that I supported what China does. But I try to convey the sentiment towards them is not just one sided. You’re knowledgeable enough that you understand this, but some people are in denial that they think that the whole world is united to go against the oppressive China when in reality China has been slowly gaining support in non-traditional places such as in African continent for example (let’s not touch about it just to keep it short). If the best line of defence is by shouting ‘China is a fascist country’, like what sub-OP has done, that’s now not going to work for obvious reason.

And I think I need to correct my words earlier - For me, unlike the US, the Europe are still friendly in the way the treat their relationship with China. However, we can see that at one point, one has to take side, or least becoming neutral. These coming years we’ll be seeing more and more issues being brought up to set the tone for the future.

Man, no need to react aggressively. Why don’t you keep the discussion healthy by giving your arguments instead.

If you read my history, I am not even a Chinese. However I like to keep abreast of what happened around the world and discuss and give my opinion on wide area of subjects, simply to understand what going on around us. Of course some of my opinion are not always popular to certain communities, especially on certain issues like this, but I appreciate better intellectual response.

I stated before of ‘diplomatic and economic relarionships’ as that what usually dictate how the country move forward. In a simple words, the ASEAN governments don’t see China as a threat to their economic growth. This is different that the way EU see China - seeing as enemy that will directly jeopardise their economy. You just need to read the title of this post to simply acknowledge that.

Yes, the milk tea alliance will definitely disagree with me. In some Asean countries, democracy has been suppressed, e.g. in Myanmar and in notable but lesser extend and longer period in Thailand. We can see that China has been backing these countries and logically will be seen as enemy by the citizens that has been suppressed. However, I don’t think things would change much. The ASEAN leaders still consider China as important towards the stability of the region, and ASEAN has a policy to turn a blind eye on what domestically happens in its member countries, unless its very serious like in Myanmar. So, as long as each members remains friendly to each other, nothing much would change - business as usual.

I can imagine this kind of thought from the Europe and the US. But many of the countries in Asia, at least from South East Asia, don’t see it that way. Although some these countries have territorial disputes With China, diplomatically and economically they are very close. One of the big reasons is they have a policy of ‘enriching your neighbours’ where if the neighbouring countries are prosperous, then by ripple effect the country itself will prosper.

I know I’ll get downvoted for stating this, as it has always been before. My intention is just to explain that the world is bigger than what evolve around us, and not everyone thinks the same. It better to understand the complexity and study why rather than making a generalized statement.

I haven’t tried any other EU country apart from the NL. Although I think it’s bureaucratic, but I do find it to be efficient and systematic. Anyway, many of the problem won’t usually be experienced by the local and expats but by the newcomers e.g. non-local students in the Netherlands who is transitioning to working life there. It becomes more difficult because the real housing in the NL are very limited and in high demand.

In the UK it was really easy. No need to register at all.

Not just commercial landlord social housing; it applies to the whole local council area. Just to give you a generally applicable example, i.e. when the local council want to build up a certain area that used to be problematic area (high crime rate etc), they increase the requirements to move there, thus making it more difficult to move there. Those who wants to register there need to already secure employment and show that they are favourable tenants economically.

No. I assume you are a local citizen so you won’t have to experience this kind of situation.

For my specific situation, I straight away move in apply to register for the first time once there. I follow the local council regulation. There’s nothing illegal in there. But as a non-EUs it’s more complicated because need to get a local bank account, prove of employment (contract) etc. If we can’t meet the full criteria, there won’t simply complete the registration. So, yes as you wrote before, we can register post moving. But no, when we apply to register, it doesn’t mean the registration can be completed smoothly.

Just Google and compare the process to move in to The Netherlands to other counries. I’ll be very skeptical if someone said that in the Netherlands the process is easy.

yes you can just move in. but that doesn’t mean that you’ll be allowed to register and stay if you don’t meet the requirements. So at the end you need to find a place where you meet requirement. I know because I was one of those who at first didn’t meet the local council criteria at ‘this’ specific area of the city there.

The process of getting house/room in many areas in the Netherlands is full of bureaucracy. We can’t simply get a place and move there straight away. We need to register with the local councils and the requirements and regulations each local councils vary between places. Many times, it becomes catch-22 situation, e.g. you need to already have a job, but to get a job you need to register. That’s why some people are desperate enough that they move to shitty places.

yep. Tq.

You being pro China is a absolute disgrace to humanity and the values of the civilized world.

I forgot what this kind of argument is called when we attack the person instead of attacking their argument. Anybody can shed a light?

Oh, what a coincidence. I live somewhere there for quite awhile - not long to be able to learn Dutch. I find the Dutch culture to be quite interesting. Your fascination of gifting, including flowers was not something that I used to while I was in the UK. In my opinion, you are very genuine with you emotion. I may be generalizing too much, but that’s what I feel. Wish I could be back but I don’t think will get the chance anymore.

Edit: And I got some Indonesian friends who celebrated birthday in the ways that I’ve never seen before. Then, when I got to the Netherlands, I figured where the influence is from.

What I mean it doesn’t matter you know or you don’t know. If you get caught, the law treat you the same.

What I meant is that as a tourist in an inside-EU-country I would not know that this is the case

Ignorantia juris non excusat

It makes me curious. Which country are you from?

Anyway, where I live we don’t learn this kind of things, but somehow I know the difference between EU and Schengen. Long because I was able to there. May be I learned through Wikipedia. Can’t remember.

Nice. You can just post what you think without considering any fact.

oh well. Worse than stupidity, we have here a strayed pedantically breeded nonsensical being.