Lol, not even trying anymore. That’s cool, projection is a helluva drug.
could ask you why liberal trolls all have the same script too.
Yes, everyone who is critical of a pretend campist is a liberal… At least you’re not even denying that you’re just a Russian nationalist.
Have a good one
There’s no fundamental difference between Russian and western oligarchs having influence over Ukraine.
That’s a non sequitur from the discussion we were talking about.
Yeah, that’s not what happened.
I guess it’s inarguable since you said it with such conviction…
Claiming that these people represent majority of Ukrainians is the height of intellectual dishonesty
“As for the conflict itself, over 50% sided with the protesters and volunteers. More than half of the respondents discountenanced the authorities and pro-government anti-Maidan protesters. The main adversary of the Euromaidan was Viktor Yanukovych and his closest allies, 71% of the pollees believe.”
It’s fairly unanimous that the protest were mainly against Viktor Yanukovych.
Not surprisingly, you’re once again making statements at odds with the basic facts of the situation.
Wow, such a good argument. How can anyone compete with the sophisticated rebuttal of “not uh”.
guess you’ll just keep repeating this like baby Goebbels
Hmmm… I can’t refute this fact, I guess I’ll just call anyone who disagrees with me a Nazi. Big brain move.
The substack points to plenty of sources to substantiate the argument.
First of all, half of the links in that substack are dead. Secondly, just because you claim a piece of evidence substanciates your argument doesn’t make it true. Having a link saying 6 people from America went and observed an election, doesn’t mean they were part of an overall conspiracy to overthrow a country. Especially considering the people in that country attribute the actual rebellion as a response to Yanukovych sicking the police on a peaceful protest.
I’m not attacking the “evidence” in the substack, I’m attacking the overall narrative that run counter to reality.
Nobody said they’re solely responsible for regime change.
You haven’t offered any other reasoning…
to put more effort into your trolling to make it less transparent at least.
Lol, anytime anyone disagrees with you it’s trolling.
US is capitalizing on it and has done so since 2014.
By taking away the wealth of the oligarchs who supposedly handed over power to the US in the first place? Sure.
Maybe learn a bit about the subject you’re attempting to debate as not to make a clown of yourself in public.
Man, you really are just a broken record. What is your obsession with clowns?
Why is it that all Russian nationalist argue in the same exact way?
I wouldn’t bother too much, he’s not arguing in good faith. He’s just a Russian nationalist pretending to be a campist. Capitalist imperialism is a disease and needs to be stomped out…except for in Russia, which is totally going to be socialist any day now.
didn’t have any actual point to make here.
Being purposely obtuse is not a rebuttal…
was independent in a sense of having sovereign domestic policy which it lost after the coup by the west.
Just because the people of Ukraine overthrew a government that was being controlled by the benefactors of Russian capital for a government controlled by people who want to take loans from the US and Western Europe does not mean there was a “coup by the west”.
Not surprisingly you are stripping any sense of autonomy from the people of Ukraine. Could it be that the people of Ukraine were just tired of being the poorest nation in Europe despite their size, agricultural output, and mineral wealth?
Ukraine was allowed to stay independent then the war would not have happened
Meaning if Ukraine had continued to be controlled by oligarchs loyal to Russia, Russia wouldn’t have had to invade. Sure.
We’ve already established that it’s actually that the west that wants to maintain control over Ukrainian politics as was evidenced by the west overthrowing the government in Ukraine.
I don’t think posting the substack of an author who works for the Russian media is really enough to establish anything. The guy is clearly not a reliable narrator, and his “evidence” is hardly sufficient to validate his claims.
shred of intellectual integrity.
Lol, the pot calling the kettle black.
Literally that org that is known for doing regime change around the world.
Every powerful nation in the world has lobbying groups of a similar order. Saying that they are solely responsible for regime change all over the world is just reductionist and ignores the autonomy of the people in those nations.
The whole western proxy war is backfiring right now as well.
So America is so powerful they can overthrow a nation with a ngo, but so weak they can’t capitalize on it… curious.
As opposed to the oligarchic system in the west?
Did I deny that the west had its own oligarchic system? No, it wasn’t pertinent because we were talking about Ukraine prior to 2014.
Your claim was that Ukraine was “independent”, when in reality the majority of the wealth was held by Ukrainian oligarchs with deep ties to Russian capital.
Russia wanting to maintain economic relations with Ukraine isn’t the conspiracy theory you seem to think it is.
Russia wanting to maintain control of Ukrainians politics through the wealth of their oligarchs is literally a conspiracy. I’d say it’s a lot more influential than a US backed org like freedom radio or what have you.
The credit goes to the US and it’s pretty well documented at this point https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-coup-how-cia-front-laid
Ahh, yes… The national endowment fund… So powerful they could take over the government by funding… Independent Journalism?
Surely having a few people control 80% of the countrys wealth has nothing to do with people being upset at the status quo…
certain oligarchs in Ukraine decided to throw their lot with the US
Yeah, because that worked out for them…
November 2023 there were only two billionaires left in Ukraine, these being Rinat Akhmetov ($6.59 billion) and Viktor Pinchuk ($1.72 billion).[7] In November 2022 they had counted nine billionaires.[7] The February 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and its negative impact on the economy of Ukraine led to the decline in billionaires.[8]
What actually happened was that the west was not ok with Ukraine being independent and instigated a coup there.
By independent, you mean controlled by the same oligarchic system as the Russian federation?
While you are correct that Russia really didn’t need the minerals in Ukraine, they did want to maintain relations with the oligarchs that controlled the majority of Ukraine wealth. They especially wanted to maintain relations with the oligarchs like Akhmetov, Kolomoisky, Pinchuk, and Firtash. Who were responsible for mediating Russian gas sales to Ukraine.
Of course the US has their fingers in geopolitics around the globe, but giving them credit for the revolution in 2014 is a bit generous imo. I mean, when is the last time America did anything at this scale with any kind of competency?
In 2008, the combined wealth of Ukraine’s 50 richest oligarchs was equal to 85% of Ukraine’s GDP.[3] In November 2013, this number was 45% (of GDP).[
In reality this is the reason for the revolution. It’s also the same reason why America’s billionaire president is now supporting Russia. The ultra wealthy have long craved the control Russia’s oligarchy has over the state.
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Sir, I am sorry we can’t sell you a shamrock shake…this is a Wendy’s.
Sobs uncontrollably.
I know it wasn’t anything like this, but for some reason this is one of the scenarios I imagined.
And they said we couldn’t run a nation solely using the power of massive amounts of cognitive dissonance…
Southern evangelicals are definitely the worst of the bunch, but up north there are some pretty cool Christian organizations. My fav is the Moravian church, which sprouted from an internal crisis in catholicism once they started printing the Bible in languages other than Latin.
The Moravians basically came to the realization that what the church said and what the Bible said weren’t congruent. So they decided to reinterpret the Bible, but couldn’t agree on anything but Jesus prob wanted people to help others. So the whole church is based around disregarding theological conflict and instead just focusing on serving the community.
Actually probably one of the more humane ways to kill someone. My dad worked in aeronautical physiology for the Air Force and for the FAA, mostly working on altitude chambers and centrifuges. For a while he had a record at holloman AFB for longest time sustained at 8gs.
Apparently a G-loc can give you a euphoria and depersonalization similar to doing acid.
It is not an appeal to authority… It’s called a rebuttal. If someone makes a claim that no real smart person can do x, an easy way to prove them wrong is to provide an example of a smart person doing x.
Always a pleasure to meet a person whose wit perfectly matches their class. I’m sure your mother is proud.
It’s by far the easiest method, everything else is a bunch of scrubbing no matter what they try to tell you. Polymerized oils are pretty tough stuff.
I think that says a lot more about you than it does Hitler?
What should I do about it? Just start seasoning it until it all looks good?
Looks like you lost some of your seasoning in certain spots. At this point nothing you do is going to even out your bald spots. You’re going to have to strip the seasoning and then reseason your pan.
I’m guessing the original seasoning is prob from the factory? I’ve never had luck with getting the factory seasoning to stick very long and will usually strip it to do my own if possible.
I would just leave the pan in the oven and set the oven to your ovens self clean cycle. It should get hot enough to bake off any residue or seasoning. Then you can build it back up from scratch using canola oil. 375 is too low a temp for canola, you want it just over the smoke temp which is around 425 for canola. 450 would be a better temp for polymerization.
I mean someone at some point did have to manage it, they were our primary mode of transportation for a while.
If that ancestor also can track it down, maybe.
I mean, considering one of our ancestors had to at some point catch one to ride, I’m sure they could manage.
You… probably not.
Probably is gracious of you, considering I haven’t been hunting in like 20 years.
Nah, we min maxed for this already. I mean not me, I’m terrible at running. But I imagine if you go back far enough one of my ancestors was good enough at long distance running that we could eventually chase that horsey down and bang it in the head with a rock when it’s all tired out.
Yep, a lot of people forget that feminism is in fact an important tenet of leftism. Been seeing a lot of male chauvinism across Lemmy on both sides of the political divide, kinda sad really.