If it’s a L2 system the driver is always liable. The report just makes sure we know it’s happening and can force changes if patterns are found. The NHSTA made Tesla improve their driver monitoring based off the data since that was the main problem. The majority of accidents (almost all) were drunk or distracted drivers.

If it’s a L4 system Tesla is always liable, we’ll see that in June in Austin in theory for the first time on public roads.

The report never changes liability, it just let’s us know what the state of the vehicle was for the incident. Tesla can’t say the system was off because it was off 1 second before because we’ll know it was on prior to that. But that doesn’t change liability.

It turns off, but it’s likely so the AEB system can kick in.

AP and AEB are separate things.

Also all L2 crashes that involve an air bag deployment or fatality get reported if it was on within something like 30s before hand, assuming the OEM has the data to report, which Tesla does.

Rules are changing to lessen when it needs to be reported, so things like fender benders aren’t necessarily going to be reported for L2 systems in the near future, but something like this would still be and alway has.

Anthropic is building some tools to better understand how the LLMs actually work internally, and when they asked it to write a rhyme or something like that, they actually found that the LLM picked the rhyming words at the end first, and then wrote the rest using them at the end. So it might not be as straight forward as we originally thought.

This is the best future type prediction I’ve seen in years

Rick finds a magic lamp with a genie in it in 2007 and is asked what he wants for his 1 wish.

He says to be famous again.

What’s even wilder: it was Rick Astley’s first solo hit. He had done duets and sang on other people’s tracks, but that was his first single from his debut studio album. And it went straight to the fucking moon.

That is wild, had no idea. Was he well known as a non solo singer at the time with lot of anticipation of his first solo?

I lost the game.

You deserve it.

I think it was targeted at the accelerator pedal.

The pedal cover was designed to be attached with industrial adhesives, but when it got to the production line, they were having trouble installing it and some production line manager/workers decided to add some soap to it/the process to get it to slide on better.

This ruined the adhesives and the pedal on some vehicles it slipped off, potentially keeping it stuck down if it wedged itself right, triggering a recall where they riveted it on.

INB4: OMG ADHESIVES? Yes, industrial adhesives can be very strong and are already used all over cars. You just don’t put soap on them… SMH

Wait, I knew they usually can’t void it without proof, but that’s NOT the case for an extended warranty add on?

Well, I’ve never said eff as many times in a row as I have today now. Thanks.

The real problem is its relatively easy to make a product that offers everything reddit does because reddit isn’t special.

It’s the users. We have the power to move, all we need is a reasonable alternative.

As a public company, not disclosing that they manufacuter conversation and opinion with fake data and instead saying it’s all natural would be fraud and they would face fines or go to jail if discovered.

Edit: reddit could turn a blind eye to others doing it, but they cant do it themselves and say otherwise.

Eventually I think Tesla wouldn’t use someone that’d also join the strike, so probably a foreign non unionized trucker, but treating then as scabs make sense then and blocking them that way.

Thanks for all the insight and discussion!

So you’re saying gas stations refusing to fuel trucks transporting a Tesla? If those trucks are a 3rd party company would that be okay? Can they sympathy strike against a different entity?

100% agree if they are teala employees operating the trucks.

This whole thing and all the side implications are fascinating to watch unfold

Don’t the strikes need to target Tesla?

Like repair shops could prevent repairs because to get parts they need to interact with Tesla, which they will refuse, but if a Tesla needed gasoline, can a gas shop actually prevent a customer from filling their tank?

The strike isn’t against the customer, so I’m not sure that’d be allowed?

I think you’re mixing up cases and agencies?

Tesla sued the Swedish Transport Agency (STA) AND PostNord.

The ruling against the STA is to allow them to pick up the plates at the STA instead of the STA via their exclusivity contract giving them to PostNord. It has nothing to do with PostNord as it lets Tesla go to the STA directly. The STA is appealing this interim decision.

There is no ruling with PostNord yet, the judge gave them 3 days to give an initial argument to decide if he would even make an interim ruling prior to the full case being heard. I imagine Tesla is going to have a really hard time with the PostNord case.

Just another thought on this, as we both agree this will cost Tesla money in the short term.

Do you know why Tesla is the most vertically integrated car company though?

It’s because suppliers wouldn’t work with Tesla early on as they were a nobody, so they had to make their own stuff. They’re even making a lithium refinery because they can’t get enough of it.

If there are no other legitimate EU options, they might just use the expansive piece of land at their Berlin factory to spin up an aluminum profiles production line.

They surely have the knowledge and capabilities and long term it would actually make them more competitive.

That’s too far ahead to really know, but it could actually backfire and make them stronger.

I would prefer to know why they chose this over the banking unions which successfully forced Toys R Us to sign, and not throw the jobs away potentially unnecessarily.

You’re right, this is going to cost Tesla money, probably for at least 6 months, probably a year, but he’s shown he’s willing to throw money at the problem.

Everyone has ignored my main question comment and suggestion

Why didn’t they bring the banking unions in instead.

Save the jobs, force Tesla to sign like Toys R Us as it would cripple them even more than this aluminum thing.

There’s no guarantee that anyone else will want their excess capacity or be willing to make orders for millions of cars. Existing manufacturers are just going from ICE to EV, they aren’t making more cars necessarily. It would probably have to be new entrants like BYD to pick up the slack and create volume. It’s possible, but like you said no guarantee. (Edit and they still could have had BYD in addition to Tesla)