I’m beginning to think vote shaming is integral to their worldview.

…and those people call me defeatist. Sheesh!

I’m really wondering if next election cycle we’re gonna hear people say “we’ve got to vote them in first then pull them left” again. It was a notably absent phrase this past election. Biden most certainly did not move left from his “Fundamentally nothing will change.” platform.

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That’s unfair, he’ll also be remembered for supporting the electoral college

WWI era socialists who did not fall in line behind their governments certainly faced similar accusations.

Eugene Debs went to prison for that exact reason.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

I would submit that sometimes “whataboutism” can be related to the issue of topicality in a debate, though. If not addressed properly topicality issues will inevitably derail a discussion as is their nature.

"You really want to frame this in the context that your actually doing something other than undermining a fair election. "

I find that arguing a person must vote for one of two pro-genocide parties already undermines your idea of a “fair election.” What primary even nominated Harris as the Democrat candidate? -Not that our primary systems is particularly representative of a “fair election” system, either. I just don’t remember when these were candidates voted on.

There are also Right-wing factions in the “Democratic coalition” you mention like The Cheney’s.

Interesting, so based my on my brief reading am I understanding this correctly, that the Barbara Pit is a mass grave of Slovene and Yugoslav Fascists and Nazi collaborators?

The beautiful thing about Teflon is also its downfall. It’s such a stable unreactive product that it never breaks down! Ever. Also the process of making it is pretty awful, too.

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i didn’t say tax evasion isn’t the real problem. i said that the meme is blaming the wrong people.

it’s GE’s (And politicians) fault that GE is evading taxes, not the IRS.

Same. This has been the story of my entire adult life and It’s so frustrating in it’s own right.

If other peoples’ tax evasion is your big concern then you hate the wrong people.

Immigrants being on the right is also implicit. Almost nobody is gonna migrate to some place new because things like recent changes are going well for them in their country of origin. They instead leave and migrate to some place that is relatively more stable & predictable. Host countries don’t like it when people migrate over and start agitating for change. As a result conservatism is built into the process.

–Consider the Cuban Communist. The Cubans that are happy with Communism have no major incentive to leave and resettle in Miami. The Cuban Capitalists OTOH flee to Miami where they espouse the evils of Communism while advocating for our government to continue the trade embargo, ensuring they can spread their pain to their fellow Cubans back in Cuba. It’s the same exact story with Falun Gong

To add to what you said I’d also argue it comes with finding financial success while lacking the awareness of how lucky one had to be to achieve that kind of success in life.

– although lately I have also seen a lot of people that lack the imagination to consider a reality different from what’s presented to them by the status quo.

On second thought, that latter point just sounds a lot like Indoctrination.

A lot of conservatives are liberals. The two terms are not mutually exclusive.

The Dems will preserve a political model that’s at least malleable.

Much like during covid when they gave preferential treatment to themselves while simultaneously working to remove the Green party from ballots.

-More to the point your comment runs contrary to reality and the very nature of the joke pointed out in the meme.