Non vegans at least have the excuse of being deeply indoctrinated, and having 90+ percent of people reenforcing and defending their behaviour. The ultra rich dont.

Was talking about the Paris commune in particular, the national assembly is an example of where rich people fall. Rather than share bread they’ll install fascist military dictatorships.

Keeping people in a cage is crueler and riskier than just killing them. If anyone voluntarily gives up their wealth and power I’m all for forgiveness, I’ve never seen it happen but even serial killers have voluntarily turned themselves in and sought help.

I don’t think you quite grasp just how far gone the rich are.

It’s absolutely not 0, people constantly try non violent means of renegotiating social relations and get nowhere, in fact they usually get executed for the trouble. Revolutions have left people alive and they consistently side with counterrevolutionary forces and violently crush anyone attempting to improve equality.

I mean french revolution says hello? The worst that can happen is they scuttle off, rouse reactionary forces, and violently oppress billions again. Which they have consistently done no matter how attractive the proposed alternatives have been.

Also people who aren’t vegan and have encountered the idea also suck, so that isn’t exactly making your point.

I’m not getting into this. The rich willfully demonstrate every single day they are more intentionally anti-social than the most psychotic serial killers. They are pure aberrations, utterly remorseless, completely without empathy. They happily commit mass murder with the wave of a pen again and again, they are engaged in active omnicide. Literally they are actively killing entire ecosystems to avoid a life of staggering luxury vs a life of unimaginable luxury.

Nobody has ever demonstrated an effective treatment for such a disordered mind.

Scandanavia doesn’t rehab billionaires lmao.

If you have a way to rehabilitate them don’t hold back.

tbh you can’t exile people anymore and getting staggering rich requires sustained campaigns of oppressive violence and exploitation.

It’s self defence, you’re talking about people that have demonstrated a complete lack of empathy and a complete lack of wanting to use their resources to rectify that or limit the harms they can do.

These aren’t like people with FAS trying to do anger management courses because their brains got damaged. They’re unrepentant, remorseless, and cruel. They had the resources to do literally anything to demonstrate contrition and chose not to every single day.

That Australian number seems inflated by property. People bought houses 40 years ago for a handshake and a nod and now the houses are “worth” 2 million dollars or whatever. But if you sell your house you need to buy another one and they come in 2 sizes: million dollar family home or million dollar shoebox studio in the city.

So it’s monopoly money.

Um it did not take the entire world, for a lot of their early success most of the fighting was against countries that were unprepared and devastated after ww1.

Droll means humorous, did you mean to write dull or do you have a different point I am not understanding.

This image is silly though because you could just replace the text with “the sky is blue” or any other fact to make the opposite point. Like if you’re going to make a political cartoon the cartoon itself needs to be making some point. Don’t be like that seppo loon that just writes labels on everything.

Something like this is much funnier as the image and text play together.

I strongly suspect you have some wires crossed. There have been some attempts at simulating brains but I think a fruit fly is partially done and it’s making a fair few assumptions.

It’s pretty straightforward to completely replicate the behavior of e.g. a house fly in software

Could you provide an example of a complete housefly model?

That’s a little histrionic. A large part of propaganda is censorship, it is propaganda when the Chinese government censors discussion of e.g. tiananmen square and it is also propaganda when a mashup of laws and commercial interests prevent people from openly discussing or educating themselves on political tactics. The essential essence is controlling what ideas are normalised and permissible and which are not without engaging with the substance of them.

Not all propaganda is bad, you probably agree with some stuff like indoctrination of people with the idea they have a moral obligation to help their community, or to first attempt resolution of problems via legal means.

There are obvious differences in how and what gets supressed or encouraged but you are completely naive if you think that all states are not explicitly propagandising their populations. They are not benevolent guardians they are weird machines of flesh and ideas which project power because those that don’t get selected away. If you think being clear eyed about the unreliability of emissions from LLMs is cover for chinese statecraft you are a paranoid moron.

Try asking chat gpt how to arm an insurgent group to overthrow the government. Or get it to admit the usa is a democracy in name only.

The difference is that we don’t see propaganda for what it is when it’s just “common sense” or the values being propagandised to us are ones we agree with. There are explicit censors in chat gpt.

All LLMs have propaganda baked in to them.

Funerals are for the living, not the dead. I struggle to think of a good reason not to acquiesce to their wishes prior to dying, so as to make their grieving easier, given that yours will not matter at all then.

I think I posted something critical of conscripting people to make them fight over who they pay taxes to at the end and got called a tankie and Russian bot.

It is entirely consistent with anarchism to be critical of states using coercive violence to force people to fight for their preservation.

Some of the libs on this protocol are intensely derranged, I think for many it’s their first time seeing that people out there disagree with some of their sacred assumptions and it breaks their brains.

Hnngh hnngh yes yes quite the unwashed masses need to be kept far from power hmm yes Tallyho good man hmm hmm.

See 4Chan, the_donald, gamersriseup etc. If pretending to be fash is the joke you can’t remove actual fash.

I don’t browse all much but when I do I see “jokes” about how killing people is cool and good if the government that claims dominion over you says that the government that claims dominion over them is the enemy.