You all deserve whatever hell comes for you.

hear hear. i’m so sick of trying to explain how western democracy works to toddlers. fuck it. FAFO you little idiots. i’m already packed up and heading for my bunker. ya’ll can sort this whole, stupid, goddamn mess out yourselves.

who cares about placing blame? you sound like a kid crying to your mommy. JUST DO THE RIGHT THING GODDAMNIT.

If more people vote third-party it will pull center politicians further in whatever direction you vote

oh you naive child. you’re willing to doom us all for your ‘conscience’. what a spoiled, privileged brat.

ROMANS? “colonized” by ROMANS??? lmao

Listen here, you little shit. why don’t you get back to me when you finish reading the history book instead of commenting when you’re only halfway through? in case you missed it, the ENTIRE HISTORY of civilization is a long, continuous story of lesser peoples being conquered by larger peoples (whether in size or technological superiority). every tribe of people, at some point in their history, had a moment of ‘first contact’ with a larger, more ‘advanced’ civilization, and it almost ALWAYS ends with the underdog getting the shaft. europe is no exception. germanic tribes, prior to contact with the romans, were not so different from any other ‘primitive’ people. the romans colonized most of europe, which in turn spread roman technology and culture (hence the term ‘romance’ languages).

nationalism and the concept of countries didn’t truly exist until like 1700s. Sure, there were some special cases like Poland which has been a “country” (or rather, a united kingdom) since the 10th century, but even for these outliers, the idea of a nation comes waaaaaay after the fucking romans have existed, please stop embarassing yourself.

I never used the term country because the concept is bigger than the idea of the modern country. you really need to stop going on the offensive until you calm down some, junior.

And europe’s contributions to… “medicine, science, phycics, chemistry, etc”, even if we discount the ones that were straight up stolen, is a non-sequitir when we are talking about what europe at large has done to its subjects. Do you think that advances in, for example, electric power production, are worth the countless colonial deaths in middle africa? Europe is pretty fascist still, living on the blood of the third world

first of all, the romans themselves learned a lot of what they knew from the near east, which were actually the first conquering city states - persian, babylonian, achaemenid, etc. history makes no attempt to hide the fact that most western society was greatly influenced by the near east and arab cultures, so using the term ‘stolen’ is dishonest, (along with calling europe out as being the worst colonizers). any actual scholar understands that the entire history of technology is the concept of ‘standing on the shoulders of giants’, meaning owing their achievements to the great minds that came before them, no matter where they came from.

and, just to send this one home: fuck you, western chauvinist, I hope your life mirrors that of the global lumpenproles, who have no choice but to take your country’s neoliberal “fixes”

fuck you too, kid. i guarantee you wouldn’t say that shit to my face and walk away with all your teeth still in your skull. i’m just as radical as you are, son. i’m trying to tear down capitalism just like everyone that understands what the fuck is going on. you need to watch your mouth and pick up on who your allies are. just because i’m not grossly misinformed about world history doesn’t mean we’re not on the same side.

not exactly true. don’t discount europe’s contributions to medicine, science, physics, chemistry, etc.

but yeah, the western world has been exploitative as fuck. we learned it from the romans, who colonized the shit out of us. it’s a vicious cycle, but i think if we can just beat the fascists and corporations, we are the verge of a new enlightenment.

Let us not forget how much Trump hates environmental regulation. He will auction off America’s treasures for whoever sticks enough money in his pocket. Biden has done a pretty decent job of maintaining the old guard mentality of preservation and conservation (as imperfect as that may be).

I wish more people cared about the environment.

the meat of it is concerned with property and ownership, which has little to do with the general welfare of sentient beings, so i think it was alright for the time, and totally outdated now.

why does a trolley dilemma not represent real life? why is the problem not a simple thought exercise? genuinely, GFY.

no. i’m not going to seek help. this is a simple trolley dilemma, and if you don’t understand that soon, you’re dooming billions.

not really. want to elaborate on your thinking here? i promise i can have a nuanced talk about it.

lol. who is morally justified? please explain.

exactly.

some little bitch ass coward downvoted you for this response when it’ actually one of the truest statements in this thread.

THANK YOU.

my post from yesterday was downvoted into oblivion for essentially saying the same thing: https://lemmy.world/post/13123135

fuck off. if we can fix america first, the rest of the world is easy.

exactly.

glad you finally caught up. it’s depressing to see how many good people are just catching up. it makes sensible solutions seem impossible.

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and the easiest way to fix the world is to remove all of them from it. Can I get an amen?