Stupid brown people in the global south have no autonomy and can’t possibly be revolutionary outside of what Karl Marx imagined. I am very smart and definitely not a patronizing racist.

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because a church cant be revolutionary.

The Sandanistas and millions of Nicaraguans would disagree. Part of Nicaraguan revolutionary legacy is Liberation Theology.

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https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/3127623

Khaled Barakat discussed this at length. I’m glad to see you kept the sources I recc’d earlier 🙏

"Barakat also responded to the narrative coming from certain quarters, especially from Western liberals, that Hamas was originally created by Israel to divide the Palestinian movement and to weaken the PLO. “Israel did not create Hamas. Hamas was founded on December 9, 1987, in the First Intifada,” he stated. “Since then, Israel has been targeting Hamas, killing its leaders, assassinating their commanders, killing and imprisoning their members… If Israel created Hamas, then why don’t we have not even one document that shows this?”

He explained that Hamas originated from the Muslim Brotherhood movement which was established in 1928, 20 years before Israel was established. Israel did try to create a religious movement to replace the PLO but failed in the attempt.

“Today the PLO and the Palestinian Authority leadership are traitors and tools in the hands of Israel,” he continued. “And Hamas is leading the Palestinian resistance, but not just the armed resistance. If you look at elections, let’s say the student movement elections or labor elections or any kind of really popular assembly elections, Hamas will win with majority. Palestinian people are voting for Hamas in the most prestigious Palestinian liberal universities, like Birzeit University, Hamas will win student council elections. Even in Christian universities, Hamas will win by Christian votes. Does that mean that the Palestinian people don’t understand Hamas? And these Western liberals understand the situation more than we do?… I do not think it is naive or ignorant when they repeat this, it is a calculated distortion. The idea behind these allegations is to say that Palestinians are not capable of creating their movement, someone else must have done this for them.”

Barakat emphasized that Hamas is a national liberation movement of the Palestinian people. He recalled that Western media never mentions that Hamas was actually elected by Palestinians. “They say things like Hamas controls Gaza or Hamas did a coup, as if an elected government is going to do a coup against itself,” he said. “It’s just garbage that Western media put out to mislead people.”

When consulted about the rejection expressed by some sections of the Western left towards anti-imperialist movements that have a religious base, such as Hamas, Barakat called it “an extension of a colonialist mindset.” “They want a Palestinian resistance that fits their image and their criteria, and not how reality is and how Palestinians are,” he said. He added that the same sectors used to criticize the Marxist-Leninist PFLP when it lead the armed struggle during the 1960s-70s, calling the organization “too extreme.”

In this regard, he traced the history of the origin of Islamist anti-imperialist trends in the region. “In the 50s our people were shouting slogans for socialism,” he commented. “They supported Nasser in Egypt… And there were no religious groups anywhere in the movement carrying out any kind of national liberation tasks. Being affected by the situation worldwide—Vietnam, Cuba, Algeria, national liberation movements across Asia and Africa, Palestinians founded the PFLP, the DFLP, and other progressive forces. But that changed. And the reason that things change is not because people are wrong, but because these political parties or these political entities haven’t delivered what they were supposed to deliver. Whether it’s Gamal Abdel Nasser and the Arab national movements that were defeated in 1967, or whether the socialist organizations and political parties retreated in 1990 with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the socialist bloc.”

“The popular classes and the working classes are not going to rest until the left rebuilds itself,” Barakat stressed. “They’re going to support the forces that are still fighting. And when there is a vacuum, someone needs to fulfill the vacuum. In that atmosphere, with the 1979 Great Revolution of Iran, a new era began in the region,” and religious movements took up the task of the Palestinian resistance.

He called out the inherent Islamophobia in the “anyone but Hamas” view, and stated, “We are part of the discourse of Liberation Theology. It’s not just churches, mosques can be revolutionary too… If a mosque is calling for the liberation of Palestine and for equality and for supporting the marginalized and the workers, then this mosque is playing a good role, a positive role. But if a mosque is calling for supporting the Saudi prince and extend the life of bin-Salman of Saudi Arabia, that’s a reactionary mosque and a reactionary imam. The way we look at churches, we should look at mosques with the same objectivity and the same way.”

“Those who want to see the left rising and having military capabilities, they should go and support the left instead of saying they don’t like Hamas,” he advised. “It’s just a very bad position and not one Palestinian would respect that position, including any revolutionary leftist.”"

You know what I should just log off and go to sleep.

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Did I do it right?

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Nobody is asking you to say “I agree with every single word this man has said” but maybe, just for a moment, reflect on what “criticizing Putin” even means on an English language internet platform dominated by US/EU labor aristocracy and who it benefits generally in the context of the imperialism. This is from a new book by Marxist economist Dr Ali Kadri. You can find it for free online if you know where to look. I don’t always understand everything he says but this is quite relevant. (I had to read it multiple times to understand😅)

“The waste or, sub-categorically, the many years lost from potential longevity are, by extension, a structural genocide carried out by capital in command of history. The quantitative impact of the historically wired genocide may be gauged as a result of imperialistically imposed famine policies (Avramidis 2006). Its impact through underfunded health can also be assessed by extending Sutcliffe’s (2006) measures of unnecessary deaths. The numbers of the victims crushed by the weight of [capital] is in the millions every year. Still, this capital, of which one speaks, is a social class that cannot be sliced like a salami sausage in order to apportion moral condemnation to its various slivers. No class-independent ethical value-comparative judgment can be made about the parts while skipping the decisiveness of the whole. …

What is often intended when the curtailment of civil liberties in a small dependent nation is flaunted by the mainstream media as unethical or contra human rights often develops into an excuse for the sacking of the smaller nation. However, whatever restrictions Libya imposed on political freedoms were in response to an impending assault by the US sixth fleet, or the US sponsored Islamists inside its territory, yet these restrictions were considered as valid reasons for its destruction by NATO in 2011. In hindsight, the fact that the western working class supports such obvious lies does not stem from ignorance, it is rather a personification of a capital-class position. Even in utilitarian ethics, brakes upon Libyan civil liberties by the Qaddafi government were a more humane working-class standpoint than the destruction that followed and the contribution of the collapse of Libya to the power of imperialism. In any case, ethics based on statistics are a calculus of crime. Similarly, it is theoretically salami-like to speak of this or that sub-imperialism as central capital’s undelegated power. History identifying with capital is not a salad whose constituent forces are to be discerned by some probabilistic exercise. …

By means of statistical extrapolation as well, percentage shares of wealth concentration would logically and, albeit absurdly, turn anyone into a sub-imperialist. Any sizeable state in a given region becomes sub-imperialist. It all depends on the class bent in the mode of abstraction, the dynamic laws that relate the abstract state of a concept to its concrete state, and the accounting system with which it is quantified. Contrariwise, capital incarnate in an imperialism, which commands history, is a totality. Since it is hierarchically structured in dominance, its lower suzerainties’ exercise of power is made possible, though not necessarily certain, by the clout of US imperialism. It is specifically the crushing weight of this clout, the weapons of NATO backed by its propaganda apparatuses, which is not qualified as a weapon by Western Marxism; thence, the room that is available for academics to nuance an argument and discuss what the other side in the developing world is doing wrong while it is being butchered by the very dominant thought currents housing nuanced debates. Understanding the historical moment, the assessment of the actual balance of forces, has not been a strong point of Western Marxism (slightly rephrasing of Krupskaya’s in the Lessons of October [1925]). The substance of the power of the ruling class or US-led imperialism is its capacity for ideological production, refortified by its strategic positioning and aggressions across the globe. Dominant thought is the differing currents that gravitate toward the reason of the commodity as self-expanding value.

Putting structure to thought, the global stratum invested in dollars increases its wealth as the US-led class collateralises its dollar debts/ credits with imperialist aggression/control, which is also its ability to recruit labour in bondage conditions and to further waste the future labour of the developing world. The masses act via the agency of the social class and its corresponding state of consciousness. Social humans think for themselves but draw from a dominant ideology whose strength varies with class rule, before embarking on a course of action, whence the uncertainty in historical uncertainty. In parallel, the control of capital over the means of production establishes the objectivity of history. Determinably, historical events, objective and uncertain, lie beyond the reach of probability’s guesswork. Yet this history cloned as capital, the product of organised social agency actualised in cultural and institutional practices, has its own dynamic or laws of development. The law of value, and its ascension into the AGLCA, is the principal mediatory frame by which global society reproduces. Such law allocates resources primarily by the practice of imperialist wars of encroachment. And, as argued so far, imperialist wars are a wage system in themselves and act as back-stoppers of the broader wage system."

Ch 3; The Accumulation of Waste- A political economy of systemic destruction; Dr. Ali Kadri

Nicholas Maduro President of the Bolivian Republic of Venezuela

“From Venezuela, all our support for President Vladimir Putin, Venezuela’s brother,”

President of Cuba Miguel Diaz-Canel Bermudez: Thank you very much, dear President Putin. … We appreciate all efforts of the Russian Federation and your role in orienting the world towards multi-polarity, in encouraging it to move in this direction. In this sense, you have a very strong leadership role. I would also like to exchange views on this.

… I was very interested in your speech on the reunification of a group of regions with Russia. You made a very meticulous, clear-cut analysis of the events since the Soviet Union’s disintegration, denouncing the role that the imperialist powers tried to play. You made a very thorough analysis of what is happening in the world. You made it clear that the world should come to its senses and described those who are imposing their rules on us. You explained why they impose these rules on us and why they violate them later.

I think this is very structured thinking and analysis, and it is worth sharing with the world. I was happy to listen to this speech. We have identical approaches and views on global issues."

Daniel Ortega Saavedra, Nicaraguan President

We salute the great Russian people, you, your government, and the families of all Russia, in these moments of great challenges… to you, comrade President Vladimir Putin, our affection, in revolutionary brotherhood.

Kim Jong Un president of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea

“Russia has risen for a sacred fight to protect its national sovereignty and safety against hegemonic forces,” Kim said ahead of negotiations on Wednesday. “We will always stand together [with Russia] against imperialism.”

Xi Jinping President of the Peoples Republic of China

Xi, for his part, praised Putin, saying: “Under your strong leadership, Russia has made great strides in its prosperous development.”

Beijing and Moscow are friendly neighbors and reliable partners, Xi Jinping said upon his arrival in the Russian capital on a state visit.

“It gives me great pleasure to once again set foot on the soil of Russia, our friendly neighbor, and pay a state visit to the Russian Federation at the invitation of President Vladimir Putin,” the Chinese leader said.

“On behalf of the Chinese government and people, I wish to extend warm greetings and best wishes to the Russian government and people,” he added. “China and Russia are friendly neighbors and reliable partners connected by shared mountains and rivers,” Xi Jinping stressed.

“Ten years ago, I paid my first state visit to Russia as Chinese President, and together with President Putin, opened a new chapter in the all-round development of China-Russia relations,” the president said.

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Last time they sent these the Russian missile force destroyed the stockpile and it caused a huge radioactive cloud that ended up in Western Europe. People should really read Kadri to learn about Accumulation by Waste, its literally never been about “winning the war”.

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I understand your pain on this and don’t wish to downplay it. It is vile what the eurocolonizers have done to you and continue to do.

Regardless of Shrike’s circumstances as an individual. The way I see it, with exception to the comprador and collaborator classes in their respective nations, Africans (in Africa, the Caribbean, and America), Chinese, Russians, Arabs, Asians, Latin Americans and the rest of whole global south have shared class interest. That interest is in seeing through the annihilation of the US empire.

And it is in imperialist interest to cause schisms and hide that which is why they spread propaganda about “Chinese imperialism” and “Russian imperialism” and “Iranian imperialism” etc. They say “look how this nation treats women, or gay people, or such and such ethnic minority we must denounce them” when it is in fact imperialism that has inflamed those contradictions to begin with. They do not want to see nations align. They want to keep everyone fractured. All this to say that conflating white Americans with colonized people outside of America/EU who are under attack by imperialism is probably not helpful for anyone except the imperialism.

My understanding was that user Shrike is a Russian user living in the Russian Federation which is why I responded at all. If they are Russian-American or Russian-“israeli” then that’s a different story entirely.

Edit: I did not downvote you. See below.

I think applying this concept universally is wrong and you raise an important point. Many Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanese, and Iranians may well be considered as “white” in first world concept but this does not stop “israel” bombs or bullets and it does not stop US/NATO sanctions siege.

Obviously there are white Russians and non-white Russians. But has their skin color has protected people of Donetsk Mariupol or Kherson from nazi bombs?

Yet the head of US terrorist military and general of AFRICOM are black American men and the CIA hires “latina mothers”. Such organizations are responsible for mass murders of black Africans on weekly by NATO proxy death squads. I have even seen leftists truly express wrong beliefs that Palestinians are actually “oppressing” black “israelis”.

I find it interesting that this chart has so little to say about global international imperialist depopulation extermination campaigns.

This tells us that imperialism is not based on race but something else. And perhaps that the exporting of NGO-ized discourses out of their first world contexts is not helpful.

White Americans and Europeans are consistently some of the most insufferable humans I have ever encountered and that is how I understand the relevance of this meme. We know that the great satan and other arrogant powers France, UK, etc continues to exploit and enslave and kill nationally oppressed people for hundreds of years inside their own borders and this is the context of chart. One day soon they too will be free of satans clutches insha’allah.

حسنًا

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I downvoted you because the Palestinian state will exist from the river to the sea and it’s capital will be Al Quds and anything less is zionism. Palestinians and Arabs are waging an armed revolution and Israelis are class enemies of the revolution.

You’re not wrong though that this kind of “Palestine Solidarity” in Western countries by people who benefit materially from the colonization of West Asia and are in no way threatening their own fascist imperialist governments which are the backers of the entity, is an optical illusion.

I don’t think your analysis was that deep but it does raise an actual contradiction.