Great. Just great.

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    8 hours ago

    This is wild. I’m referring to the amendments in your constitution in the event of tyranny. Even here in your comment and the other’s, you’re waiting for congress or your senate or whatever part of your government to save you.

    No one is coming to save you. Save yourselves. You have a constitutional amendment for this exact moment in time.

    • Pete Hahnloser@beehaw.orgOP
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      7 hours ago

      I get that you don’t live here, but there’s nothing like a national initiative process for amendments. That you would like there to be reflects a likely majority view of the voter base, but this does not make it so.

      If you’re referring to the 14th, that was shredded already. The Constitution is irrelevant to the junta, as juntas are wont to do. Voting harder in a mythical election that can’t happen is simply not an option.

      I would encourage you to know about the U.S. Constitution before spouting off about it. I don’t wander into Canadian politics because I don’t know how it works and can admit that.

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        4 hours ago

        Gosh it’s truly incredible. Neither of those amendments were what was referring to but I’m not wasting my time anymore. Enjoy your new country! Y’all have absolutely earned it.

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          3 hours ago

          I have thick enough skin to usually let comments like this slide, but if you believe treating Beehaw users like this is appropriate, this may not be a good forum for participation.

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            I believe the other user was trying to avoid explicitly stating that Americans need to use the powers given them by the second amendment to directly take back their country, without engaging in the existing (apparently ineffectual) political processes.

            Apparently I’m avoiding saying it directly too, perhaps I don’t want to be directly encouraging anything.

            Anyways, their intent seemed very obvious to me from their first comment (so I can see where their frustration came from), but I’m not educated enough in the US political system to be distracted by the details of 2/3rds majorities etc.

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              There are two problems here, fitting for the Second.

              First, the people stocked with ammo are the ones thrilled that we’re in the Fourth Reich. Second, any sort of widespread uprising will let use of the Insurrection Act sail through any hurdles, and now the military is being used internally.

              The Constitution is not in play at this point. Second is the only thing being defended by the junta.

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                59 minutes ago

                Oh, certainly. And the military has much better weapons (and training) than most 2A advocates.

                My personal thoughts are that if even 5% of the population of large cities stood up and (even unarmed) said “no, you’re not going to destroy the country” that would have a significant impact.

                (for residents in the DC metro area, that would be over 300,000 people, which you’ve exceeded in past protests - across the country if you could hit the 5% (17 million) protest target, you would certainly have a significant impact)

                I know there’s a 50501 movement. I don’t know the size of it, (long way to go) but I think they’re still gaining momentum.

                Long story short though, I really feel like this isn’t something that can be fixed by legislation or voting. That can help later, and can help support outside movements, but the people need to act, not just the politicians.