no state has achieved the liberation of the working class, because the function of the state is to expand and perpetuate its hegemonic power and influence. state authority is fundamentally oppressive.
If there isn’t a state, then what happens when the capitalists attack? Who’s gonna organize a defense? You think everyone’s just going to pick up guns and magically form an invincible anarcho-army?
What if class was to be determined by both economics (exploitation) and power (oppression), therefore in the USSR all the leninist reformists did was to exchange the wealthy upper class for the all powerful upper class. So at best Leninism is a bad reform of capitalism.
No state can ever achieve anything more than the liberation of the capitalist class. The only liberation for the masses is to seek alternative ways to self govern and abolish any centralized power structures from reforming again.
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Hello actual communist here. Commies rock, tankies sucks. We really don’t need or want authoritarian behavior in communist communities.
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Ok Demsoc
no state has achieved the liberation of the working class, because the function of the state is to expand and perpetuate its hegemonic power and influence. state authority is fundamentally oppressive.
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Call the containment center, we have an anarchist on our hands.
READ STATE AND REVOLUTION
You’re being a dummy, this person is literally repeating the doctrinaire Lenin line on the temporary utility of the state.
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You my man are beyond saving.
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What you wrote earlier was an accurate summary, they just misread (I hope).
I misread indeed, sorry. I’m such an idiot!
If there isn’t a state, then what happens when the capitalists attack? Who’s gonna organize a defense? You think everyone’s just going to pick up guns and magically form an invincible anarcho-army?
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The State power- as a lesson of history- Cannot be wielded for good. It is a corrupting power with its own momentum and incentives.
This is precisely why any positive accomplishments of the Leninist states were undone by corruption, bureaucracy, and power-seeking.
Because the very structure of a state by itself makes it not only possible, but inevitable.
What if class was to be determined by both economics (exploitation) and power (oppression), therefore in the USSR all the leninist reformists did was to exchange the wealthy upper class for the all powerful upper class. So at best Leninism is a bad reform of capitalism.
No state can ever achieve anything more than the liberation of the capitalist class. The only liberation for the masses is to seek alternative ways to self govern and abolish any centralized power structures from reforming again.
This is another reason why the rest of the left calls Tankies Red Fascists. So much behavior is shared.
Like the arrogant mislabeling of everything they dislike as “liberals”.